A veil doesn't mean 'oppressed'

Surprise surprise!

By Souheila al-Jadda

An elderly woman stopped me in the mall the other day to ask what I was wearing. I told her a head scarf, or hijab, and overdress, or abaya. I said my Islamic religion requires me to dress modestly and hide the contours of my body so as not to attract the opposite sex.
“You people are oppressed and submissive,” she replied, questioning why God would want a woman to hide her beauty. She added that my clothes were just plain “ugly.” So according to her, if women are seen as persecuted based on what they wear, then many of the world’s women from Africa to the Middle East to Southeast Asia would be considered oppressed.
The head scarf continues to be perceived in the West as a symbol of religious cruelty. A survey last year by the Council on American-Islamic Relations found that more than half of the 1,000 U.S. respondents believe that Islam encourages the oppression of women.
Actually, many women in Middle East and Islamic countries are free; others are working to bring about more change. That’s probably news to many Americans. Next week, for instance, Kuwaiti women will participate in parliamentary elections for the first time in the country’s history.
Iqbal al-Ahmed, a women’s rights activist, sees this as an opportunity for Kuwaiti women. “In their first two elections, they will make little difference,” Ahmed told The Associated Press. “But when the society absorbs (the idea), they will become a force and they will acquire more confidence that they can bring about change.”
While progress in these regions might not measure up to Western standards of freedom, an examination of education, political participation and social reforms shows that women in Muslim countries have made considerable strides. Attitudes, too, are shifting.
**Education **
In 1970, according to the World Bank, women made up 16.6% of literate adults in the Middle East and North Africa. In 2000, they accounted for more than 50% of literate adults in those regions, a substantial improvement. The years of schooling for girls and women older than 15 in the region rose from six months in 1960 to 4? years in 1999 ? the largest regional increase in the world. Female students are a majority at the United Arab Emirates University and the UAE’s Higher Colleges of Technology. In Tunisia, 57% of university-age women are enrolled in higher education. Even in Saudi Arabia, known for its bias against women, about 55% of college graduates are women. Higher education is one thing, but workplace gains often are decades in the making. Even so, progress is notable. In Syria, women make up about 15% of lawyers, 13% of judges, 57% of elementary and high school teachers and 20% of university professors. Equality? No. Progress? Absolutely.
Despite these encouraging signs, others in the region still lag. Yemen, with a population similar to Syria’s 18 million, has only a few dozen female judges and lawyers. Further, only about one in five teachers are women, and one in six university-age women enroll in higher education. Clearly, there’s still a ways to go.
**Politics **
Western stereotypes are upended by the political clout of some women in the Islamic world. While Americans have yet to elect a female president, Indonesia and Pakistan have had women as heads of state. Women are also state ministers and members of parliament in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. In the Palestinian territories, Fathiyya Rimawi, whose head scarf frames her middle-age face, is the first female mayor of a village. “Representing women in official positions is the key to achieving modernity and democracy, especially in Palestine,” she told Iran’s Al-Alam TV.
People across the Middle East seem to agree with Rimawi. A recent Gallup Poll of eight mostly Islamic countries revealed that a majority of respondents agreed that women should be allowed in leadership positions. The ranges were as high as 92% in Lebanon and as low as 40% in Saudi Arabia.
**Social reform **
Any meaningful political movements must be buttressed by social and cultural changes as well. Thankfully, such shifts are taking root in the Middle East. Last year in Algeria, women prodded the government to change the family code to allow adult women to marry independently without obtaining a male guardian’s consent. A few years earlier, Egyptian women helped pass legislation making it easier for them to divorce.
In Morocco, women established the Center of Listening & Orientation for Women Victims of Violence, which provides a safe haven for women abused by their husbands. “We guide these women by giving them solutions relevant to their cases,” attorney Al Sa’diya Wadah told Morocco’s 2M TV. “We also inform them of their rights as women.”
But as with any such historical movements, there is an ebb and flow of progress. Such is the case in Iran this past year. For the first time since the 1979 Islamic revolution, the state gave women the right to attend soccer matches, but it was a short-lived victory: Muslim clerics objected, and the order was rescinded.
**Culture vs. religion **
So why don’t the floodgates open, allowing women equal rights throughout the region? Frankly, many men (and women) still oppose granting more rights to women. Something as seemingly innocuous as allowing women to drive provokes an impassioned debate about culture and religion. Just such a discussion (about a legislative proposal in Saudi Arabia) played out on a TV talk show.
“Saudi society is not ready to accept women driving,” said Shalimar Hassan Tharbanli, a prominent Saudi artist. Her arguments were based not on religion, though, but on the approval of her male-dominated culture. Similarly, when asked why women were not better represented in Jordanian politics, feminist Hazad Altel told Jordan TV, “We have a male-dominated society. Men have dominated women based on tribal or agricultural society values.”
Unfortunately, some men often refer to distorted or false interpretations of Islam to prevent women from getting behind the wheel of change. Islam does not prohibit women from seeking education, public office or employment. But culturally, many men view educated or working women as a threat. If a wife seeks employment, her husband is viewed as not fully providing for his family. If a single woman attends a co-educational institution, she might be considered “loose” for mixing with the opposite sex.
For these cultural reasons, don’t expect a radical feminist revolution in the Middle East. Reforms will be gradual. With more than 44 million women still illiterate in the region, access to education remains a top priority. Employment among women in the Arab region is among the lowest in the world, 33.3%. Further, many women still live with discriminatory laws.
But the recent changes in the region are significant because they are coming from within these societies. Debates about women’s rights take place on local TV programs, in books, newspapers and parliamentary chambers. Muslim and Arab women, veiled and unveiled, are using their minds, not foreign armies, to gain freedoms. These increasingly public debates point to a reawakening in the Arab and Islamic worlds, where societies are examining their own religion, culture and prejudices to better understand how to address injustices against women.
It took American women more than 130 years after the signing of the Constitution to gain the right to vote. It took more than two decades after that before the women’s rights movement truly blossomed. American women, perhaps more than most, understand that what a woman wears has nothing to do with having the same opportunities and rights as men. And as U.S. history shows, a revolution doesn’t happen overnight.
*Souheila al-Jadda is a journalist and associate producer of a Peabody award-winning program, Mosaic: World News from the Middle East, on Link TV. She also is a member of USA TODAY’s board of contributors.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-06-21-muslim-women-edit_x.htm

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Oooooooh its a lot length who will going to read it hmmmmm

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IMO, hijab does not mean that women are oppressed, but these long defensive articles don't help as much to kill the myth. The best answer to those who think that hijab and jalbab are signs of opression is when muslim women excel in different fields of science, study, government, raising kids, engineering, creativity, arts, whatever, and show to the world that they are as much part of the productive elements of the society as men.

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i din't read the entire article.......
but in answer to the topic.........
well wearing hijab does not mean tht u r oppressed.........ppl r just ignorant tht's all.............

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Of course hijab does not mean oppressed. WOmen don't know better when brainwashed my a patriarchal religion interpreted by men and governed by men to be suppressed and non entities in public.

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i’ve seen some, but they had no hijaab :konfused:

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[quote=PhatBalongri]
Surprise surprise!

By Souheila al-Jadda

An elderly woman stopped me in the mall the other day to ask what I was wearing. I told her a head scarf, or hijab, and overdress, or abaya. I said my Islamic religion requires me to dress modestly and hide the contours of my body so as not to attract the opposite sex.
“You people are oppressed and submissive,” she replied, questioning why God would want a woman to hide her beauty. She added that my clothes were just plain “ugly.” So according to her, if women are seen as persecuted based on what they wear, then many of the world’s women from Africa to the Middle East to Southeast Asia would be considered oppressed.
The head scarf continues to be perceived in the West as a symbol of religious cruelty. A survey last year by the Council on American-Islamic Relations found that more than half of the 1,000 U.S. respondents believe that Islam encourages the oppression of women.
Actually, many women in Middle East and Islamic countries are free; others are working to bring about more change. That’s probably news to many Americans. Next week, for instance, Kuwaiti women will participate in parliamentary elections for the first time in the country’s history.
Iqbal al-Ahmed, a women’s rights activist, sees this as an opportunity for Kuwaiti women. “In their first two elections, they will make little difference,” Ahmed told The Associated Press. “But when the society absorbs (the idea), they will become a force and they will acquire more confidence that they can bring about change.”
While progress in these regions might not measure up to Western standards of freedom, an examination of education, political participation and social reforms shows that women in Muslim countries have made considerable strides. Attitudes, too, are shifting.
Education **
In 1970, according to the World Bank, women made up 16.6% of literate adults in the Middle East and North Africa. In 2000, they accounted for more than 50% of literate adults in those regions, a substantial improvement. The years of schooling for girls and women older than 15 in the region rose from six months in 1960 to 4? years in 1999 ? the largest regional increase in the world. Female students are a majority at the United Arab Emirates University and the UAE’s Higher Colleges of Technology. In Tunisia, 57% of university-age women are enrolled in higher education. :Dmost tunisian women don’t wear hijaab!
Even in Saudi Arabia, known for its bias against women, about 55% of college graduates are women. Higher education is one thing, but workplace gains often are decades in the making. Even so, progress is notable.
In Syria, women make up about 15% of lawyers, 13% of judges, 57% of elementary and high school teachers and 20% of university professors. Equality? No. Progress? Absolutely.
Despite these encouraging signs, others in the region still lag. Y
emen**, with a population similar to Syria’s 18 million, has only a few dozen female judges and lawyers. Further, only about one in five teachers are women, and one in six university-age women enroll in higher education. Clearly, there’s still a ways to go.
strangely the most hijaabi are in a country and the least women progress is observed:confused:
**Politics **
Western stereotypes are upended by the political clout of some women in the Islamic world. While Americans have yet to elect a female president, Indonesia and Pakistan have had women as heads of state
american women are far less free than european women, and yes there are/were women presidents or prime ministers in a lot countries of europe
. Women are also state ministers and members of parliament in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. In the Palestinian territories, Fathiyya Rimawi, whose head scarf frames her middle-age face, is the first female mayor of a village. “Representing women in official positions is the key to achieving modernity and democracy, especially in Palestine,” she told Iran’s Al-Alam TV.
People across the Middle East seem to agree with Rimawi. A recent Gallup Poll of eight mostly Islamic countries revealed that a majority of respondents agreed that women should be allowed in leadership positions. The ranges were as high as 92% in Lebanon and as low as 40% in Saudi Arabia.
again places with less hijabis are on top of women positions, lots of christian in lebanon, and they don’t wear hijaab. /quote

you are making he case for opressed hijabi worse! it is quite clear that in any arab country, the less hijabi are on the streets and the more literate, working women are in this society, tunisia, lebanon or syria are examples!
regarding morroco the recent movement of girls reaching to univeristies head free is now changing the family code…
north african women, close to europe, are taking more and more freedom, education, social position, and wearing less and less hijaab…

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If by that you mean that a guy generally has to spend relatively less money to go to bed with a European woman than an American one, I would tend to agree with you.

I lived in Europe for several years when my dad was stationed there and European girls are easy. The hard part was adjusting for the different hygeine standards, and getting past the hairy pits. Sacre bleu!

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oh really.. can you kindly tell us the interpretation of the following Quranic referecne... Note that these are not interpretations but merely a translation...

***24:30]* "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."

***24:31]* “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.”

***33:59]* “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them. That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.”

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so this translation is saying that you should cover, but u could make the cloth u cover with pretty...am i right?

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No where in the translation, it talks about the type of cloth or something.. All it talks about is cover, cloth, do not show your beauty....

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**but it says to draw on your clothes/cloaks:konfused:

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how come the "nuns" who cover themselves from head to toe aren't called oppressed..........whereas when we "muslims"cover ourselves from head to toe ...we r called oppressed...............


parissenoor............wht u said above abt lebanon & saudi arabia.......it does not have to do entirely with being a hijabi or not.........it also depends on the way of thinking of the general public in a particular country........hijab is not supposed to be a hindrance to a persons personal acheivements.........i personally know a saudi woman who is mashaallah a very high ranking doctor here .....& she completed her studies in a foreign country......& she not only wears a hijab ...but she also wears a niqab..........& she completed her studies wearing niqab in a co-education environment..........it was no hindrance to her.............i know this does not represent the entire saudi community........but it is clear tht niqab was not a hindrance for her...........
so as i said lack of progress is not because of the hijab.........it also depends on the general public's way of thinking..........

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I do not think it is forbidden for a woman to wear pretty clothes:hehe:

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:yahoo:

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just have to cover them in front of naa mehrams :stuck_out_tongue:

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different types of nuns were different outfits, not all wear head covering. And they have taken allegiance to the church and gave up all worldly ways. They are roman catholic, but not roman catholic women of the populace who choose their own style.

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If ever there was a case of incoherent rambling, you'd take the top prize...

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I really don't know why the way women dress up is the cause of so much useless debate. Wether one is wearing a skirt, or a Burqa, its their choice. That's about it.

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^ yes but its for the sake of horny males who get a hard on by looking at women, it has nothing to do with women, since its a man's religion where women is consider a FITNA they can say and apply any rule they want.

fcking ignorance.