A true Imam - abdul rasheed ghazi (ra)

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Propaganda Movie :D

Poor people with innocent brains ... :)

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wow, the word 'Imam' hits a new low!

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The Video below is a tribute from me for this great man. I made this on day of his Martydom.
I was very ligh hearted person…but after this incident I started to pray 5 times and I grew a beard too.

The circumstances in which he and his family (kids, women and others) got into , water supplies for them were cut off..No food and finally his Shahada…all of it reminded me of Hazrat Imaam Hussein Razi Ala Talaa unho

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^ hmm, interesting it means you are saying Musharraf is modern day Yazid?

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^ hmm, interesting it means you are saying Musharraf is modern day Yazid?
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So is zardari, karzai.... Why are pakistanis limited to thinking in a particular box... Even after that there is a bigger difference between the later group and yazid. Yazid at least appeased his own followers by threatening the Sahabah in Madinah and giving the illusion that their bayah to him was legitimate instead of under duress.

Everybody knows the illegitimacy of the later group yet the muslims have accepted humiliation before dignity and honour and even go as far as taking it upon ourselves to justify their presence instead of placing the onus of such work on their shoulders. I have heard Pakistanis (yes Pakistanis specifically) even go as far as saying Mohammad bin Qasim should have never come to Sindh, and Prophet (saw) should not fought the Quraysh.

Of course from a humanist point of view they are correct actually. But how long are we going to put an Islamic garb on a "humanism" and "defeatism". And the offers made by Quraysh to our Prophet (saw) were much much greater than any leader would give today to any true Islamic movement in order to pacify them, and yet he rejected them all. Yes he was not working with defeatist mindset nor was a he a humanist.

Being bitten from the same hole again and again and again when our Prophet (saw) said "a Muslim is not bitten from the same hole twice"

P.s. don't knock it if you don't have the heart to watch it...syke...As I am more interesting in specific issues/points which you think are errors or mistakes.

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Propogndanist theater

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe I stopped you from living the life of hermit if that is what you want.. You want to stop "propoganda", just take out your internet cable out, throw away your computer, throw away your television off from a five story building, hire a servant who is only speaking when spoken to and tell him to take off all the labels of your shopping before you see it, darken all your window, bid farewell to your family and friends and do what you want to do within the four corners of your wall - you will be propoganda free... (i will even post you a certificate to say so... oh wait that will also actually count as propoganda).

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^go ahead and post thousand more videos of this thug. Did i mention anything about "stopping" you? And stop babbling because i have a right to express my opinion just like you have a right to post propoganda material about liar turned "Imams".

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oh temper temper.

(and suddenly defence becomes an act of injury....hmm correct me again, but I am not the first one to call names out of the blue and I still haven't accused you of anything, but you don't want me to defend me... oh well sticks and stones will break my bones, but these nonsensical accusations can never hurt me ;p )

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Personally , i fail to understand why some people have so much hate against others.....and they dont even spare kids and women. The Kids and women inside the mosque were students not thugs. I heard interview of lilttle cute angelic girls....they were reciting Quran and offering their prayers......but to please foreign masters..........Musharraf ordered bombing of the mosque.

Ah...............I tell you with every such Karabala....the legacy of Hussein gets renewed.

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You have chosen Mulla Burqa and his gang as ur Imam and thats ok. Post videos about them and praise them and as far as i see nobody is stopping you.

And read the posts above, i did not call you any names. You were the one who got personal. Let me give you an example of a post getting personal to make it clearer:

The way u said "oh temper temper" part, it sounded very gay to me.

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Brother, those innocent people inside the mosque indeed were the victims. But it was these thugs who got them in the position they were. I am not pro Musharraf or anything but no School of Fiqh allows this sort of "action" against the govt. Otherwise we all will end up living in a jungle society!

Read what was done when the Grand mosque, Baitullah was seized in 1979.

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This murderer is responsible for so many deaths and destruction. [Edited] was a liar and a charlatan. It is a new low for gupshup to have this POS be eulogized by some here. I thought the new policy of gupshup was to not allow posts praising terrorists. Where are the mods?

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what a great unjustice to islam and humanity to even draw comparisions with Imam Hussein (as) and Karbala. Quite sad.

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Well lets make it simpler....

Molana GHazi Shaheed made a mistake of closing a brothel in a Neighborhood....the locals made him a Hero.......the issue got international attention. Govt Decided to demolish the mosque....the Students of the Madrasa took a stand......and Finally the Govt used excessive force and shot the bird with a Canon.

The Story has similarity with what happened in Karbala..Harzat Hussein Razi Alaa Talaaa also took a moral stand against the Ruler of his time and suffered similar fate.

The big Question is " Just to Protect one Brothel.....I repeat one Brothel........the Govt decided to Demolish a mosque? and finally bombed kids and women in it"

Ghazi Shaheed didnt't do any bad he was ...a captive of Morality and Conscious and collided with an emeny 100 times stronger than him and ultimately died a Martyr

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^you seem to have conveniently forgotten the kidnapping of the Islamabad policemen, other kidnappings of the alleged "prostitutes" including 3 Chinese citizens, burning down the govt. building, collection of weapon loads, making open threats against govt and civilians among their other achivements.

Half truth is more dangerous than a lie

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*Dear users *

*The thread is back for further discussion , we do acknowledge that every user has a right to argue and debate . *

*But as expected , one should carry it in a civilized/humane manner . I hope we aren’t asking for much here .. *

Please enjoy posting .....

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are you saying he killed unarmed civilians?? I would love to hear any source of this accusation thus i can make a personal record of it

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I am not pro Musharraf or anything but no School of Fiqh allows this sort of "action" against the govt. Otherwise we all will end up living in a jungle society!

Read what was done when the Grand mosque, Baitullah was seized in 1979.
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Firstly which fiqh do you follow and I will give you more than ten evidences from that specific one, but Quran and sunnah overrides any fiqh and you should know that battle of Badr did happen, and so did Uhud, so did Khandaq. Furthermore at the time of Uhud woman sahabiat become famous for defence of Prophet (saw). A woman can you imagine in war garb. I cannot imagine a pakistani woman standing up for haq until the student women of jamaia hafsa stood up for justice. Please tell me which fiqh do you follow. Do you know that all of the four imaams revolted at some point againts the government and they were tortured for it but I will bring you proof from evidence that you accept. The only time when I heard that this was not allowed from fiqhi point of view was someone complaining why are women doing this action, I guess they are not aware of what happened at Uhud and countless other battles and what happens in this day and age in Palestine, and other places.

Infact I don't know out of the four major schools any would disagree with this action so please let me know from whom should bring my quote.

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^you seem to have conveniently forgotten the kidnapping of the Islamabad policemen, other kidnappings of the alleged "prostitutes" including 3 Chinese citizens,
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Well regarding this, I only have information from locals to go on. If they believed that then, I rather believe them than any biased news agency (infact they themselves reported that locals fully supported the shutting down of the brothels and a chinese or any citizen has no right on any Muslim land to spread his/her filth. Are you saying chinese have more right to pakistan than pakistanis? If they are not prostitutes than bring evidence. Such a task should not be too difficult??? My evidence is the claim of the locals.

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yes read what happened, the seizure was a heroic act by Imam Johaiman, because the saudi regime is curropt regime. The incident humialiated to the point of begging French and American commandos to lead a "muslim" army (including pakistani personnel) to once again open fire on the holiest places to the Muslims and it itself showed the justification for taking over the masjid in an attempt to topple the regime. Yes no fiqhi group would allow non-muslim soldiers or normal non-muslim people within the area of Haram yet on this occasion and on first gulf war, the "scholars for dollars" issued fatwas allowing legitimacy. Don't tell me these "scholar" belong to an authentic fiqhi group. If I gave them half a million most of them would legitimise alcohol and riba (interest... and infact, Tantawi, the head of Al-Azhar has done just that, yet he is afraid to call on the Egyption government for jihad in Palestine and is even famous for rebuking anyone in his masjid)

RE: Kevyan,

I am glad you made this decision, to be honest, my intention was not to get involved in the discussion myself, but its just so tempting. At the very least, I think information itself should be out there and if anyone disagrees, for my own benefit I would like to request them to bring quotable sources as evidence. But one should acknowledge that "terrorism" is a very subjective term and information itself should not be censored but remain in public domain particularly in the current climate that information which is sensitive to Pakistan and the surrounding region. The enemies of Islam have no shame in publishing cartoons of Prophet (saw) and write about our mother Aisha (as) in the name of freedom yet when a muslim calls for liberation from occupation he is a terrorist. I don't think Muslims should feel ashamed of even supporting the "terrorism" openly because humilition is for one who accepts it and honour is for one who takes it. If the muslims are happy to be humiliated for purpose of political correctness then they deserve humiliation. I respect the opinion of the board for any of my posts (because I would probably posts somethings similar) but I have said this as a record of my opinion solely and my posts are for purpose of information solely.