A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

MARKANI - Yes the shias have wrongly accused the Sahabas and the Mother of the Believers. I already did post the ayya where ALLAH warns us about people who shall insult the Sahabas.

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

Surah 9. Repentance, Dispensation
99. But some of the desert Arabs believe in Allah and the Last Day, and look on their payments as pious gifts bringing them nearer to Allah and obtaining the prayers of the Messenger. Aye, indeed they bring them nearer (to Him): soon will Allah admit them to His Mercy: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Why stop at only famous sahabi!!!!

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MAKRANI - You are moving further and frther away from the topic at hand.

Will someone please answer the questions asked.

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

Assalaam u man ittaba'al huda

what kind of "deen" is that which is based on cursing somone?? kiyaa sirf laa'nat bhaijna hi deen e khaalis hai. is it the only thing u r taught by ur deen?
Hzt. Ali karramalLahu wajhuh was one of the best companion of the RasullAlh (SAW) to whom he (SAW) gave one of his daughters (RA).
Then what about hzt. usman e ghani ( RA) who was given two daughter by him( saw). (one after another)

Aaap to Hzt. usman e ghani ( RA) ko bhi curse karnay say baaz nahee aatay.
Aur haan yeah ahl e beit ( Rizwan ul lah ajmaaeen) main sirf aik beti aur aik daamad ko shimaar karna aap hi ka khas-sa hai.
do u apply the same formula for your family as well?

Intehaee adab say guzarish karooNga k zara sochiyay aur iss laa'n taa'n say abchiyay.
yuN to kalamullah main u may find the ayaa (LAKUM DEENUKUM WALIYAA DEEN)

AAP JO CHAHIAN MANEIN LEKIN KIYAA ZAROORI HAI K AAP JISS KO NAHEE MANTAY USS KO GALI HI DEN??
aur ZERO1 saheb yeh jo aap nay barelvi aur deobandi ka maslaa uthaya hai issay uthanay say pehlay zara sa apny gareeban main jhaNk letay to maloom ho jata k aap k yahan kitnay firqay hain aur kiss tarah aik doosray ko ghalat aur khud ko saheeH thehratay hain.
i dont wannna go in details but would request you to keep the discussion on track.

shukriyaa
Mirza Ruswa

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Volume 4, Book 56, Number 704: Bukhari
Narrated Muhammad bin Jubair bin Mut'im:

That while he was with a delegation from Quraish to Muawiya, the latter heard the news that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As said that there would be a king from the tribe of Qahtan. On that Muawiya became angry, got up and then praised Allah as He deserved, and said, "Now then, I have heard that some men amongst you narrate things which are neither in the Holy Book, nor have been told by Allah's Apostle. Those men are the ignorant amongst you. Beware of such hopes as make the people go astray, for I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'Authority of ruling will remain with Quraish, and whoever bears hostility to them, Allah will destroy him as long as they abide by the laws of the religion.' "

Again to stress a point that not all sahaba were true momins.

Mirza Ruswa I am only cursing enemies of ISLAM. Why are you draging it towards any sahaba or honorable wife.

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Mirza Ruswa - Bohot khoob farmaya aap ne bhai.

Yes so now, can anyone answer the questions?

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Brother MAKRANI - I have constantly been asking you to stay on topic, you keep going off topic. If you can answer the questions and contribute to the toic, please go right ahead. But do not derail the thread please.

Thank You

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

I am sorry But I thought I was on the topic by posting why all sahaba's were not true Momin. I thought that was your question. Sorry. May be I need to go to sleep now. Good night.

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

So jaao sarray Mirzay or Makranis....

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No brother, the question was to get an answer from the quran that would justify cursing the Sahabas. And the next question was to get an answer from the quran that would justify cursing wife of the Prophet (whom the quran it self calls the mother of the believers).

Shaba Khair.

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

Kaleem bhai - So jaate hain. Waisay bhi lagta hai hum banned hone wale hain. Bare azeem laugon ko galiyon ka jawaab diya hai na.

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May be HE DOES NOT Agree](http://www.kr-hcy.com/realaudio/Video/SHIA-Kafir-(Video-Proof).ram) with this and answers you here :slight_smile:

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Anwar Qureshi bhai - I saw this very same aalim on a majlis they aired on Prime Tv. Had some good things to say, but ended the majlis with leaving a very bad impression.

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Assalaam u man ittaba’al huda

Mohtram Anwar bhaee

Agar yeah mohtaram hazarat aik naseehat say muttaffiq nahee hotey to phir
kalamullah ki aayat e kareema 25:63 hi paRhi jasakti hai.

wasiay aap jaisay adab shanas k tawassut say aik sher bhi inn logon ki nazr kardooN:
LAGAY MUnH BHI BANANAY DETAY DETAY GALIYAAn SAHEB
ZUBAAn BIGrI TO BIGrI THEE KHABAR LEEJIYAY DEHAN BIGrA

WASSALAM

Re: A thread about Shias: as requested by Sheraz-CT

under review.