A surprise divorce

A couple we know with 2 kids.

The guy takes wife and kids back home on vacation. Over there he takes their passports for safekeeping. Returns back to the US with passports and gives wife divorce from here.

She’s stuck back home with her 2 kids. Obviously he has no intentions of giving her alimony, etc.

The story according to him is that she was too depressed for him to handle. Her story is that she was going through depression but should her husband have dumped her. She didn’t know this was coming.

Now the community has stepped in but almost everyone is on his side. He’s been able to get custody of the children as his wife is considered “dangerous” and “unfit” to raise the kids.

We’ve asked her to go to the American Consulate and report this. Any other suggestions?

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Hire an experienced lawyer ASAP

Document everything (dates, times, locations)

Gather evidence

Question: If she's back in Pakistan with the 2 children in HER care, how did he manage to get sole custody?

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Mehnaz, he's been planning this out for a long time it seems. He has a few witnesses also.

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I know someone in the similar situation.. actually even worse than this. They got out of it though. I would share her story but its personal :(

What a jerk!

I say let him handle the kids, he'll be pretty effed up in a couple of days!

I'm assuming the dude works in the US. How will he be able to handle two kids while working? His "plan" doesn't make sense really.

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Oh my God, thats horrible... I don't think the Pakistani courts or the community will help her at all.
Spiral, you don't need to share the story, but I guess you could share what the lady did.

I'm assuming he'll take custody of the kids and then give them to his parents to raise, just to get back at his wife.

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That is really sad to hear :( Depression is a medical problem and can be treated... she needs to be treated as opposed to being abandoned and called "dangerous" and "unfit". No one was here to defend or represent the wife so I am not surprised that he's been able to custody.

I suggest that someone in your community who is on her side and who has any sort of sympathy for her should also contact an attorney and ask for a consultation on the matter. Some attorneys may not charge anything for this initial step. If no one in your community feels like paying for a lawyer for her as htis process unravels (which it seems like this would be the case since the community is on his side) then ask attorney's for taking this case on as pro bono. You will be surprised by the number of attorneys who will agree to this. Every attorney who I have worked for and taught me all take on pro bono cases from time to time. It is really emphasized to do this in our field.

This is very sad.... a mother should never have her children taken away from her in this cruel manner. No matter how depressed she is (as the husband claims) ... those children are probably everything to her.

One of my extended family member's (mom's cousin) has been chronically depressed (and properly diagnosed with this) for years and years. Its been hard on their immediate family... but no one has given up on her. Her husband hasn't abandoned her. She has her children around her. She is getting treatment and the proper care. Everyone helps her out and includes her in everything ... with hopes that she will get better.

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^^ he'll bring a 16 yr old nanny -- ahem sorry wife from pakistan
and further depress her and start the cycle over again.

He will remarry of course :smack:

Sick stuff. I thought this only happened in cheesy lifetime type movies. Sorry to hear this. :frowning:

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I hope she has the $$ to pay for a lawyer, cause this could possibly be an international custody battle which is by no means cheap. Alimony is irrelevant. She needs to ensure she has rights to her own kids and she needs evidence to prove she's mentally capable of having access to her children. She needs to get a new passport ASAP and return to the States and commence her own legal action.

Pakistani courts will not help her.

If she genuinely has depression, I don't know if she can handle a custody battle. It's emotionally and mentally draining and can get incredibly ugly. You need to have skin as thick as steel to survive it. She needs to strengthen herself for the road ahead.

Pro Bono lawyer is a good idea. Do some research on her behalf on Family Lawyers who take on Pro Bono cases.

umm...so he left his two kids in a foreign country (to the kids atleast), without passports, with an "unfit" and "dangerous" mom. and went back ALONE to the safety and comfort of his own home. how does that make him a "fit" and "safe" dad to try and gain custody of the kids...shouldn't his decision making skills be under question here? from a legal perspective?

this lady doesn't have ANY records of her legal status in america? she could get a temporary travel permit thing or something as long as she has SOME proof of her identity. this is so sad. i hate hate hate selfish men!

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Raise some funds. Once you got the money Assign few volunteer this job.

No need to go on moral grounds, have him go to the court for wat ever reasons(unlaw full possession of travel documents?)

Guy is D-bag, he thinks of wife no more then a useless fixture.
Let him learn the lesson.

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The man abandoned his children with this "mentally unfit" woman and then got custody of them? I do not understand how that is even possible.

There has to be more to this story. You need to file documents and serve them on the other party (meaning the wife in Pakistan) in order to get custody. Then you wait for the Response to your initial filed papers. Then it goes in front of a Judge. You don't just get it like that.

It sounds to me that he may have lied to the Courts, which can land him in deep trouble. But for that, you need $$$ to pay for the lawyers to fight you case, and a lot of it cause it is a LONG drawn out procedure.

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THIS IS TOTALLY EFFED UP AND THIS IS WHY I HATE MEN THESE DAYS. WTH.

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No matter how you ppl hate this scenario any partner has right to break the contract!!!!

But what with making a decision of deporting them ??? why F would he be their person God????

One low level ----- ------- he is.

Need to be fixed. or best, left alone. Every one learnstheir lesson.

Nik if you guys need to do some thing fix the woman's life. Be her support gourp till she start doing life at her own. She is going to be better with out such a person.

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Initially she was shocked and went into extreme depression. Now she's been talking on the phone with some ladies but she's completely lost. Someone has been giving her some good advice but hope she follows up...

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be persistent.
Chances are she is going to be the last one to give up :)

This jerk married a girl to get green card. In the process they had two kids. He divorced her and came to US and kept the kid's passports. The girl went to the US embassy to tell her story and finds out, he submitted a document stating that mother of the kids is taking the kids away without the father's permission. They had joint custody that time. The girl was rotting in Pakistan with no one to help her and being a citizen herself she couldn't come to the US because of her kids.

This is what the girl did then, got lone custody of the kids in Pakistan. It was a long long battle for 3 yrs. So finally she got that. Passport was still an issue. After the custody she got new passports made, that was of course another long process. The case was still going on, she left the country before the jerk made another smart move of filing another crap statement. In Pakistan people leave in between the case and it wasnt an issue. I didn't know that but glad she did. As soon as she entered the US, she told INS everything.. HA!

I think your friend should go to the embassay as soon as she can. Don't even give that jerk time to think of what to do next. Trust me on this, if she doens't do it fast, she'll be stuck in Pakistan for years.