Why Why Why are we discussing such a basic concept here?
What would you do if it was your mother, sister or daughter?
This is meant to help someone move in the right direction when they might be confused about someone or something. Its not meant for the person to go and adopt a random person.
If this sentence evokes guilt in someone, its not a bad thing. It might be a good thing because it means you're not completely desensitized. If it means nothing to you or you want it to mean nothing...then we have a bigger problem.
CM, because everything is not always about you. You say that you do not associate with Western values, but you echo exactly that. Individualism - Me, my family, my stuff, my country etc, etc. That's basically what West is founded upon. This is a developmental stage kids go through, but people of West tend to get stuck there thanks to the dumbing-down of media and indispensible capitalist values over all other values. You say you support freedom movements of distant foreign lands, but you won't care about a fellow human being on the street right in front of you - what kind of logic is that?
Again the same problem as before. Assumptions about character that do not link with what is stated but what is assumed.
I never stated anything about me personally. I have used the plural. You simply assume I speak for myself.
Never said I don't associate with Western values. You making that assumption and I can't be held accountable for assumption you make that are attributed to comments. I am only responsible for what I say or rather type.
But I do like the direction this discussion is going. Firstly I disagree with the notion that individualism is stage one gets stuck at. The concept of the community or the whole is flawed in many ways as is the concept of individualism. Its necessary to balance those two to reach a suitable life style.
Secondly the concept of my family is not individualistic at all. It is a form of community. The same can be attributed to the extended family.
The support to freedom of movement is a basic right of individuals. But what the guy down the street is doing is none of my business. Neither is it my business why any individual heads to another country.
The notion or concept I support. The personal reasons are none of my business.
Psquared, a notion I find archaic. Why must one use the notion of his sister or mother to compel him to take action? If someone is not going to help out of basic human respect and dignity why would they do it otherwise.
We will fail to agree on this matter. Now care to answer the original question i posed?
I am not belittling the value of individuality or individuals, in fact in order for actual collective good to manifest community needs to have unique, thinking individuals. The ideology of "individualism" that West feeds on, however, gives people the permit to disregard everyone else but themselves and their belongings (be it "stuff" or people). Human beings have to have a vision big enough in order to envision the whole of society as their extension. It is really a concern of personal growth, since vision of life tends to extend as individuals continue to grow.
Agreed - Family is indeed a form of community, however it is not the destination but only a beginning.
You've lost me with your distinction between human rights and err a human right?
^ lets just take responsibility for our own actions, deeds and words we utter, meddling in people's private lives is NOT helping unless your help is directly asked for.
GS and especially Life1 is a great place for everyone to connect. If you try to listen to the other side with open mind, you'll have a great conversation where you'll learn a lot.
