A raped woman who cannot produced four witnesses should keep quiet about it

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what is the law if a non muslim rapes a muslim girl?
is it same or is it different for non muslims?

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If a muslim rapes a non muslim girl or a non muslim rapes a muslim girl the punishment is Death

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^^ Thanks for he reply.
i was actually wondering what is the procedure to prove the rape. i know punishment is death but first it has to be proven.

does the woman need 4 witnesses (muslims? ) to prove the rape if a non muslim has committed the horrible act?

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No 4 witnees are not reuqired in the rape case it is common the circumstance and the test will do the job a rape took place in the time of Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW when women told about the man to Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW he ordered sahabs to get him and they got him gave a little bit of beating and he accepted it than he was executed

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^^ so you mean you beat up the guy and if he accepts then execute him and if he doesnt accept then let him go?

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Sir Plz use common sense their was no DNA at that time or cameras or other evidences which are present in this time sir please show some sense

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I am sorry if i offended you. it was not my intention.
i am not talking in historical perspective. out of curiosity i was wondering about any ruling in current day and age.

Not that i doubt what you are saying, i want to know other members opinion about this.

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Check it out for yourself,

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^^ Thanks for the link.

while going through the page this thing caught my attention

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^ the punishment was never meant to be enforced hence such unrealistic requirement to prove it

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Punishment can be forced if their are 4 witness

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haha, where are you supposed to find 4 witnesses for rape/zina - its not something that people do in public you know

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I know but still their are chances of getting caught

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what exactly are the 4 witnesses to a rape doing? Standing around? Taking notes?

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We are not talking about Rape in the case of 4 witness 4 witness are not required for rape they are required for the consant Sex that is Zina bil Raza

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As I understand it, for the Hadd punishment of rape the requirement is 4 witnesses, for the lesser tazeer other forms of evidence count. Still, wrt Hadd punishments.. the 4 witnesses who stood around watching the act of rape, and it does have to literally be rape very specifically defined, what were they doing?

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No rape doesn't require 4 witness sex with consent requires 4 witness rape can be judge through medical and DNA and evidences and punishment of rape is death

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Lets say a man and woman have consensual sex. Later the woman accuses the man of rape. In this case is the womans testimony and the dna evidence enough proof for conviction?

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For doing rape man gets violent and women is hurt in that case I knew some one will raise this issue so I said it before about medical tests and there also many ways of bringing out the truth most women can't face the questioning and if you don cross questioning and and other stuff you can find out the truth recently a similar case took place in Saudi Arabia

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Not necessarily true that all rape has to be brutal. Please do link the Saudi case though.