Why is it that Ahmedis have to give a certain percentage of thier income to the Jamaat. Is this in any way proved by the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH). Why isn’t there much emphasis on Zakat, which is mandatory.
Secondly, why is there so much emphasis on the Yearly gatherings. What about Hajj?
I hope you will answer my questions and not delete this thread.
My threads on this topic have all been blocked. Since this is the largest discussion board of Pakistan, I am going to make sure it is not hijacked by a small group of people. This topic will be discussed here! I will do that!
As Muslims we love creation of Allah. We should all be worried if we are earning hell fire. Instead of saying that you are non-Mulsims (which they have been declared), why not ask them and try to discuss. I am sure they don't get into discussions, that is why my threads have been constantly deleted.
I invite them to discussion so that we understand each other better, for surely there can only be one right path. So which one is it? What do the Ahmedis think, if they at all think what they are doing?
I agree, and I wish it could happene,
but unfortunately, they are not gonna listen to us, neither we can convince them on the net, the reason is we are not Muslim scholar with a degree and neither our action and behaviour is as … as a Momin is suppose to!
Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) had spread Islam by his behaviour and actoins, but we here have no nerves to listen other and have not enough knowledge to convince other, if it was the case, we could have done it long time ago!
Anyway, I hope we could do, let us try !
ps: Plz don’t call them Muslim, they are out of Islam, thanks !
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*Originally posted by laeeqkhan: *
My question to Ahmedis.
Why is it that Ahmedis have to give a certain percentage of thier income to the Jamaat. Is this in any way proved by the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH). Why isn't there much emphasis on Zakat, which is mandatory.
Secondly, why is there so much emphasis on the Yearly gatherings. What about Hajj?
I hope you will answer my questions and not delete this thread.
My threads on this topic have all been blocked. Since this is the largest discussion board of Pakistan, I am going to make sure it is not hijacked by a small group of people. This topic will be discussed here! I will do that!
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Here's what I noticed from their actions:
1) When their Jamat invite someone to become Ahmedi or Qadiyani (I believe) they pay some cash as an incentive towards change in religion.
2) #1 is just to fool the world that they support each other but the actual income comes from somewhere else... (The reason is Ahmedi/Qadiyani Jamat promise you to settle somewhere in Canada, England or in States, which basically requires huge amount of money).
3) Because Ahmedis and Qadiyani follow an edited version of Qur'aan so basically they don't believe in Jihad (they have a very different meaning for it) or in Zakat (cause zakat support Islamic society but donation goes to Jamat)
4) As Saudi government also declared them as non-Muslims so they can't go for Hajj either. Instead they came up with a different venue for their meeting which was Rubwa till few years back and now its changing all the time.
Laeeq I hope that answers your queries... As ATA said they are non-Muslims and will remain be...
So if you believe on the Quran and believe on paying Zakat also, then why were you declared non-Muslims? There must be some reason. What makes you different?
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*Originally posted by laeeqkhan: *
So if you believe on the Quran and believe on paying Zakat also, then why were you declared non-Muslims? There must be some reason. What makes you different?
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I smell some thing fishy here, are you Ahmadi ?
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I have heard this from an Ahmadi friend. Could somebody answer this if it is true:
Why has Mirza been Called 'Isa ibn-e-Mariam'?
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Laeeq Khan if you are "muslim" and not an "ahmedi" then why are you trying to give Ghulam ahmed qadiyani so much respect which he doesn't deserve at all... number 1 reason for that is he claimed himself as the prophet of God and secondly he tried to change the quranic ayaat which basically makes him non-mulim without any shadow of doubt, right away.
I hope that you are not qadyani or ahmedi or belongs to any of their group. Please clear one thing right now here that you believe in only one God that is Allah and Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) as His last messanger (prophet).
Let laeeq answer my second reply and that should make doodh ka doodh aur pani ka pani
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yep, I read that, and wow exactly the same point ... are you my mind reader ;)
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*Originally posted by laeeqkhan: *
As Muslims we love creation of Allah. We should all be worried if we are earning hell fire. Instead of saying that you are non-Mulsims (which they have been declared), why not ask them and try to discuss. I am sure they don't get into discussions, that is why my threads have been constantly deleted.
I invite them to discussion so that we understand each other better, for surely there can only be one right path. So which one is it? What do the Ahmedis think, if they at all think what they are doing?
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Is there only one path though?
God created so many different people, so many different languages. People understand things in their own ways.
Surely God knows and understands this. Seems logical to me.
I may be heretical, but this is what my logic tells me.
When I talk to God, my heart feels like God understands and is listening. Feeling it gives me is of contentment. Feels warm and open.
I don't think there is a right or wrong way to pray or talk to God.
God is inside us and he doesn't discriminate by creed.
