A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations

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Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations

@Khan4Life

My uncle and aunt living outside Pakistan old enough that there third generation is growing up but never ever heard and saw that they’re celebrating ^ days, like putting Christmas trees in their home etc. Wishing non Muslims on Christmas, Diwali is not an issue but celebrating one, huh?

I think your uncle and aunt are awesome people and should continue to do what they do because they can. Similarly, so can anyone else.

@queen_24

Ok. The only thing that I don’t get is, for whatever reasons some Muslims celebrate/(or just exchange gifts… ainwaeeeen on ) such occasions… Why don’t non-Muslims, goras and kalas, celebrate Muslim’s occasions? Like Eid, like Bari-Eid, not exactly the same way we do but maybe exchanging gifts on eid or distributing Eidis among their kids… chalo aiwaeeeeeen hi sahi!!!

Kaash ke ye bhi hum jitnay sakhi hotay Hum log kuch zada hi darya dil hain

One of our family friends is a Hindu family born and raised in KHI…they actually do wish us on every occasion. When I first met them, I was surprised…they were pure Hindus but aside from a few subtle things, you couldn’t tell. Very nice people and extremely appreciative of all things Pakistani including food.

Agar aap kisi aur mulk mein apna ghar basana chahti hein…to beshak karein. Lekin jis mulk mein aap hein, unke taur tareeqay apna ne se aap Muslim se non-Muslim nahin ban jati hein. Us hi tarha…jab koi non-Muslim apna mulk chorke kisi Muslim mulk mein rehte hein…to vo taur tareeqay seekh lete hein.

This is common sense aur is mein alag se samjhanay wali koi baat nahin hai.

@TLK

Aray bhai, you guys are again getting your news from geo or ary. None of the Muslim families that I know of living in USA, Canada or UK CELEBRATE Christmas or exchange gifts or put a Christmas tree in their house. The closest they come is they attend thier office Christmas party, which is Nye called a holiday party, or they go to Christmas sales. That is it.

Thank you TLK

@diwana

Some Muslims living in majority Non-Muslim places or countries become very defensive and adamant when it comes to traditions and holidays which they think they should be engaged to,… to be seen as conformed to or be assimilated to just to avoid stereotyped, generealized hatred against Muslims in general.

**No one is defensive or adamant. Mera kya bigrega agar aap aisa sochte bhi ho? Kya kar loge kisi ka? Nothing. The fact is, you cannot understand these basic concepts because you have not walked in our shoes. I just realized this and that makes this argument useless because my opponent is unarmed. Your standard of being Muslim is simply being born and raised in Pakistan. That’s it.

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Diwana - assimilated to what exactly dude? Why don’t you understand this? You as a Pakistani do not assimilate into Pakistan when you go back home do you!!! This is my homeland…ain’t no assimilation goin on here buddy.

You don’t have to like it…I don’t like it either when I go to a desi restaurant and the food is full of lal mirch but that’s life so we deal with it.

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You will never understand this…in your mind you seem to think people that have been here their entire lives are “trying” to fit in and are “Westernized”. You have to have the background to get this and you don’t. So its pointless. **

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No generalization. Enough is enough. You should know better. You are being reported for spreading generalized hateful comment. And repeatedly!!

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Aw…okay sorry if that hurt your feelings but its true and just an honest observation. That’s all.

I notice that we as Muslims have acts of faith that we stick to religiously and feverishly. But not many people actually have faith in their religion or Allah. And let me clarify before you crack your keyboard into pieces:

We’re so hell bent on thinking the entire world is out to destroy Islam. Islam has been around for longer than you and I…its a major world religion. It’s growth or existence cannot be threatened by these pathetic holidays. Allah Tala ka banaya huwa mazhab apka aur mera mauhtaaj nahin hai. Ego ko kam karo. Muslims believe in the “act” of praying…but have no faith in their prayer or their Creator. The faith I speak of is not something I can convey in a paragraph here or there. Its a bit deep and requires a certain amount of confidence which most do not possess. Yeah, that sounds cocky but its a response to what I am seeing.

Apne aap mein hi magan hein saray Muslims…ye mat karo vo mat karo. Shia ghalat hai, Ahmedi ghalat hai, blah blah. Ye sari Muslims ki qismein hein na…to matlab jab Muslims ko apne hi bhai pe aitmaad nahin hai…to Allah pe kya hoga? Hum jaise “sellouts” pe kaise hoga? **