The idea is gathered from many threads where questions are asked on this forum on many different occasions including
Saint Valentine day (known as Valentine day), Halloween day, Easter, and Christmas day…especially but not really limited to.. those who are living outside Muslim countries.
**Why do Muslims follow these days try to participate in these holidays by exchanging gifts, sending cards, etc?
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1- Is it because they agree with the basic and essential ideas of these holidays/occasions and think their Islamic belief will stay as it is despite acting like Non-Muslims?
2- Is it because they want to be shown as they are somehow ‘tolerant’
, all encompassing, and have secular ideas?
3- Is it because they are afraid of any negative perceptions of themselves from Non-Muslims and may be considered intolerant, stubborn, fundamentalists, or even terrorists?
4- Is it because they fear they may lose respect from Non-Muslims in majority non-Muslim country and lose any chance to gain better job position or any social advantage?
For example perhaps no one from another faith or religion sitting on same table eating dinner may not talk to them?
5- Is this a sign of slave mentality?
6- Or is it because of some other reasons I have not cited above?
We live in the West where Valentine’s day is a day that has been celebrated for decades so I can see why desi who are living here for years and years got caught in that tradition.
What butt ugly devil crawled into our amazingly patriotic Pakistanis living in Pakistan that they also started celebrating it? That must have gone beyond the white skin slavery. What gives diwana bro, what gives!
re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
what an ambiguous question - who are you posing this question to Diwana? Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectastions or Muslims who participate in these holidays by exchanging cards gifts presents etc
re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
They are individuals, many of them with brains, some of who can decide for themselves what is and what is not acceptable to them.
my question is why do these clean-shaven, creditcard carrying, riba-system integrated pretend-hardcore types think they are any different just because they dont carve a pumpkin.
re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
diwana you need to, find a pumpkin. then make eyes and face and nose(or a pakistani nose) on it.
Then put that kaddo on your eye level. then have a cup of coffee/tea.
Stair at that kaddo and ask your self, can this kaddo hurt islam ??
re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
Also pushing and pulling bent things out of shape.
A natural flow is beautiful thing, so inform your off spring about principles etc etc…
Let them flow nicely.
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
My apology in advance, but I thought the resident vs non-resident Pakistanis debate is over but you people still reflecting anger.
I think, you know what those people have to say about patriotism who celebrate valentine day in Pakistan
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
yes.
don’t get me started on pakistani men. When they grow older
either they start looking like Amreesh puri… or Saddam’s body guard soldiers.
Future is not so bright
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
Please don’t shoot the asker.
If you like, then choose from above options or add one if you don’t feel comfortable with or don’t like the available options.
The thread is not about Pakistanis versus non-Pakistanis.
Good question TLK bhai: Can be discussed later.
Queer: the questions are directed to Muslims. There is no question which says people do not have brains to think what is right or what is wrong for them.
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
May be they knew that religion is not always to be carried as ‘handle with care’. In other words, they got confidence that indulging in such activities would not weak their faith and religious beliefs.
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
I’d reply but the question is directed to Muslims “who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations.”
Neither do I feel the need to conform, nor do I believe that there are any expectations.
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
‘A question for muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations’ - so why bother asking the question if you’ve already made up your mind??
One more for the list -** 7. because they actually enjoy it**
My apology in advance, but I thought the resident vs non-resident Pakistanis debate is over but you people still reflecting anger.
I think, you know what those people have to say about patriotism who celebrate valentine day in Pakistan
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Your choice of using the phrase “you people” clearly indicates that the debate might be over but the marked division in the hearts is not.
Re: A question for Muslims who feel they need to conform to perceived expectations
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I think desi people get very defensive when it comes to traditions and holidays. In fact, I think Muslims are THE most emotional lot I’ve ever met. Sorry…throw tomatoes if you want…don’t care.
I rarely see any of my non-Muslim friends get fired up over these topics. But if mention trick or treating around Muslims…you should see how fast their eyes turn into slits **
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