A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah

@Texan_Dude

…………………… even the non muslims were able to look at the purity and refused to have mubahila.. and nauzbillah you are mud-slinging the character and personality of such pious personality.. whose purity is menitoned in the following verse of Quran…

And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless.[33:33]…………….

**Texan Dude ** - Verse (33:33) is an integral part of the same narration contained in verses from (33:28-34).

You have taken just verse 33:33 and applied it solely to Hz. Fatimah (ra)??!!??

If this was done deliberately, it is unforgivable. You are playing with ayahs of Quran. You need to ask for repentance. If it was done by mistake then ask for forgiveness.

See for yourself, verse33:28 & 33:29 is addressed to the Prophet (saw).

O Prophet! Say to thy Consorts: "If it be that ye desire the life of this World, and its glitter,- then come! I will provide for your enjoyment and set you free in a handsome manner. 33:28

But if ye seek Allah and His Messenger, and the Home of the Hereafter, verily Allah has prepared for the well-doers amongst you a great reward. 33:29

From verses 33:30 to 33:32 Allah (swt) is directly addressing the Prophet (saw)’s wives [May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all]

O Consorts of the Prophet! If any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the Punishment would be doubled to her, and that is easy for Allah. 33:30

But any of you that is devout in the service of Allah and His Messenger, and works righteousness,- to her shall We grant her reward twice: and We have prepared for her a generous Sustenance. 33:31

**O Consorts of the Prophet! ** Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just. 33:32

Verse33:33 is still directly addressing the Prophet (saw)’s wives [May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all] and later includes the all noble members of the Prophet (saw)’s family collectively [May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all] by saying “ye members of the Family”

And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless. 33:33

Verse 33:34 is addressed to all the noble members of the Prophet (saw)’s family collectively [May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all]

And recite what is rehearsed to you in your homes, of the Signs of Allah and His Wisdom: for Allah understands the finest mysteries and is well-acquainted (with them). 33:34

My advice to you Texan Dude is to be very careful when quoting ayahs from the Quran. Do full justice to what Allah (swt) is saying and not what fits your agenda!

Let’s see how you do justice to the Qurannic ayahs in favour of Prophet (saw)’s Companions [May Allah (swt) be pleased with them all]

I am quoting myself from the previous posts.

Tell me something, when the Prophet (saw) says “I will be there at the Fountain of Kawthar before you, and I will have to contend for some people, but I will have to yield. I will be saying: My Lord, they are my companions, they are my companions, and it will be said: You don’t know what innovations they made after you.”

How many people do see as some people? All the Companions except for 4 or 5?

Does this some people apply for whom Allah (swt) has: a) Praised these stalwarts of Islam b) Promised them Pardon and Forgiveness c) Stated that He is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him d) Promised them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever e) Deemed them to be successful and triumphant

Let’s see what you have to say. This is going to be interesting to see how you deal with ayahs of the Quran. I am sure that your inherent hatred for the Companions (raa) of the Prophet (saw) will get you to ignore what the Quran has said about them. I can’t wait to see how you are going to wiggle out of this one.

We will take it further after your response and I will address points raised by you in your last post.