Re: A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah
How many people do you want at the blessed ghusl ceremony?.. that the ghusl was left to the Prophet’s (saw) near relatives is reasonable and entirely respectful… the companions thereafter joined together in paying their own last respects… it required Abu Bakr’s presence to resolve the dispute over where the burial should take place… no one person led the funeral rites, everyone prayed individually as Imam Malik said…
pull the other one
the report says people entered “ten by ten”… already this gives us more companions than today’s shi-ites have any respect for… in fact, this is cited as one of the reasons for the delay in burying the Prophet (saw)… if there were many people keen to pay their last respects, as one would expect, it would naturally take time if they only entered the room in groups of ten…
In case you missed it, this has already been answered…
Hey, and don’t forget the reports…
“Allah and the faithful do not substantiate the claim of anyone but that of Abu Bakr” (Muslim, 5879)
“If you should not find me, then go to Abu Bakr” (al Bukhari, 9:459)
because like your colleagues here you can’t think beyond your copy-and-paste sources you only make life easy for anyone who has actually read the works you pretend to quote from…
firstly, Bukhari doesn’t cite this in the book “Jihad and Travel”, he cites it in the book “Al Khumus (War Booty)”… secondly, the chapter heading isn’t “What happened in the houses of the Prophet’s wives” but (as Muhsin Khan renders it) is more appropriately translated, “What has been said regarding the houses of the wives of the Prophet (saw)”, since what happens inside their houses isn’t always the subject of the hadith in this section… (for example, the third hadith under the same chapter heading is about Safiyya, with no mention of her house, and Umm Salima with again no mention of her house per se except the door and certainly no mention of what happens “inside” her house)…
therefore for al Bukhari to include the hadith under discussion under this chapter heading isn’t farfetched since one of the wives’ houses are referred to even though it is simply as an indication of the direction in which the Prophet (saw) pointed… anyone who knows anything about al Bukhari’s methodology in collecting hadith will be aware that he often cites the same hadith under various chapters even if the relationship between the hadith and the heading is sometimes incidental… the very first hadith in Sahih al Bukhari is another case in point… look it up
suffice to say that no Sunni commentator has understood from this hadith that the Prophet (saw) was referring to Aisha’s house or Aisha herself. Unlike shi-ite haters of the Prophet’s (saw) family and companions, such commentators were obliged by their sense of fairness to take all the various reports of this narration into consideration… the only right minded conclusion one can draw is that the Prophet (saw) was gesturing towards the East, and more specifically in the direction of Najd/Iraq as the totality of the reports explain…
Bukhari records the near-same hadith under the heading, ‘The trials are from the East’… so think about it!
And hey, since you are so fond of the chapter you first cited (‘What has been said regarding the houses…’), i’m sure you’ll be happy to know that al Bukhari quotes a few more hadith in the same section… two of which read…
Aisha: “When the illness of Allah’s Messenger (saw) became aggravated, he asked permission of his (other) wives that he should be treated in my house and they permitted it.” (al Bukhari, 4:331)
Aisha: “Abdul Rahman came with a miswak and the Prophet (saw) was too weak to use it so I took it, chewed it, and then he cleaned his teeth with it (which Aisha also described by saying, “Allah made my saliva mix with his saliva”).” (ibid, 4:332)
as for your other attacks on Aisha – described in the Qur’an with “and his wives are their mothers” (33:6) – beware also the words of the Prophet (saw)…
“Do not hurt me regarding Aisha”
(al Bukhari, 3:755, al Tirmidhi #3974, Sahih Ibn Hibban, #7232, Mustadrak al Hakim #6806, and others)
of course, neither al Bukhari nor any of his commentators suggested anything of the sort… what is true – as your argument is showing – is that shi-ites believe the horns of satan arose from the very burial site of the Prophet (saw)… now that really is shameless…