Re: A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah
In one of the post on Hadith on Imam Hazrat Ali A.S. which was recently deleted… Kaleem posted that Quran is enough and thats why he don’t feel a need to books of knowledge like Najul Balagah… I am not doubting the authenticity of Quran… for sure its the best of the best book… and the final message of God… Nor do I want to offend or degrade anyone but here are some questions I have.
**1. If quran is the only source thats enough.. why do people send kids to school… I mean didn’t Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. said…seek knowledge even if you have to go to China for it.
Well dear brother Quran does not stop us to learn, it provoke us to seek knowledge. And do you know that modern science is now following the Quran. http://www.drzakirnaik.com
Visit this website and search for scientific questions, you can use keywords like Iron, Salt, Water, Animals, Plants etc.
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**2. If quran is enough … where does it say in Quran how to pray, do wazoo…or Arkan-e- Hajj…
Well Quran told them all, like do Ruko like Rakayeen, for Wazoo it says Wash your face, hands and wrists, do Masa and wash your feet once before every prayer.
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**3. I don’t know if its in there..but can you show me where is the nikkah sigah in quran
You can search in the given link Click here
Key Words are “Wedding”**
4. I have heard a famous hadith from the sunni brother saying that Prophet said he is leaving behind two things .. Quran and sunnah… but PERSONALLY I don’t get it either because of the following ayat in Quran…
**“Today I have perfected your religion and completed my favour upon you, and I was satisfied that Islam be your religion.” (Qur’an 5:3)
Its means that after Mohammed (PBUH) no other prophet will come with new Shariya. As you know Jesus have to come back, but he will follow the Shariya of Mohammed. He will not give his own shariya. As almigthy allah said [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].In Surah AL-ANAAM chapter number 6 verse number 85
"And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous: "
**[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]**In Surah MARYAM chapter number 19 verse number 34
"Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. "
**[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In Surah ASH-SHURA chapter number 42 verse number 13
"The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him). "
How in a perfect religon Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. leave Quran..which no doublt is the best source of knowledge but he didn’t mention what is a good book to follow sunnah… why would he leave that vague… I mean gupshup is a perfect example where people pick and choose hadith… I have noticed people like Armughal, gupguppy.. I mentioned them hadith from his own books but he ruled it out.. Why would in a perfect religon as islam Prophet Mohammad leave a good source of knowledge like Quran but a vague source for Sunnah…
**5. Shia on the other hand have a hadith **
The Messenger of Allah [s] declared:“It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere to them both, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise).”
http://www.al-islam.org/thaqalayn/nontl/Versions.htm
http://www.al-islam.org/thaqalayn/nontl/index.htm
http://www.al-islam.org/ghadir/incident.htm
And history is a witness Imam has always been a good source of knowledge.. a good example can be seen in Najul Balagah
http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/index.htm
Imam Jaffar -e- Sadiq is a very good example of knowledge of his time… They were always there when needed to defend islam, a good example can be seen Hazrat Ali AS was awarded sword by Allah SWT… Sacrifices of Imam Hussain A.S. are a good a example.
Well I dont accept this Hadith because Making Sects is Prohibited in Islam. And I will show you that Shiaism is also a fake sect.
Probably thats the reason eventhough shias have 12 Imams, and still their teachings are the same…whereas sunnis have four imam not to mention all of them came after Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. and there are still differences in different issues
Question 4.
**If someone recites a Kalema and becomes a muslim for personal interests Is he also considered a believer and does the ayats you quoted above apply him also.
Well if a person recited a Kalema, you cant figure him/her as a non muslim.
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Question 5.
**You yourself claims that some of the Sunni Imams like Hanafi and Maliki were the students of Shia Imams… it sure shows the knowledge shia Imams possessed… not to mention the teaching of none Imam is different from other.. unlike sunni… who rather chose to get knowledge from the student than the teacher itself… no wonder there are differences in four Imams… but anywayzz Ok sunni so called Imams had to bow to shia Imams to seek knowledge.. can you tell me whee does te knowledge for shia Imams came from??? hmm aren’t you the one who doubt them being ifallable… **
Well This is another topic. I will reply it later.
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