Re: A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah
And Ibn Sadique sahab goes on with his usual games of ignorance…
Dude the numerous ayats of Quran you quoted justifys my interpretation more… I can see why all this anger is coming from.. Dude go take a chill pill..
Hmm a quick glimpse… I can’t help it buddy… a quick glimpse on translations posted by no other than you was enough to show invalidity of your argument…
You quoted an ayat of Quran and said it was related to Badr.. even though badr was not mentioned in the ayat if you apply the same ayat in the battle of Ohad… it rules out a lot of your so called high personality oh poor baby… don’t leave you much choice.. the battle of Ohad shows not all fought in the way of Allah SWT and ifact some went as far as disobeying Prophet for the greed of Maal-e-Ganeebat.. boy y am i not suprised… some of the so called high companinons on the greed of khilafat left the burrial service of Prophet… **NOT TO MENTIONED YOU HAVE BEEN CONTINOUSLY FAILING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION IF THE GREED FOR KHILAFAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FUNERAL OF PROPHET WHY DIDN’T PROPHET ELECT ANYONE… DIDN’T THE INCIDENT WHERE PROPHET WHOEVER I AM THE LEADER OF ALI IS HIS LEADER ENOUGH … and after that he made people alligance to it??? **
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Dude now go and take out your own so called glasses and ignorance and read my reply .. I know its hard to accept the truth but its about time you learn how too…
Here is my question its refers to people who left their homes and strove for the cause of Allah.. My questions is do you know what were the intensions of the people who migrated… I mean some of the people turned their backs when Prophet died and left the burial services for the khilafat… had the issue been so important than attending the burrial services of Prophet…Won’t Prophet P.B.U.H. have resolved it himself…why did he give the following hadith and made people pay alligance to it… "For whoever I am his Leader (mawla), 'Ali is his Leader (mawla)."Anywayzz getting back to the point… we don’t know and I personally don’t know what were the intensions of the people who migrated from Medina was it wordly spritual or whatsoever.. the fact that Allah SWT mentions for the cause of Allah..than just say whoever migrated… I am in no state to judge who should be included and who shouldn’t be.. If you think you have Ilme-Gaib than go-ahead and feel free too… but I won’t advice you to mislead other by posting names of the people ..when Allah knows the best.
Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’s way are of much greater worth in Allah’s sight. These are they who are triumphant. - 9:20
But the messenger and those who believe with him strive with their wealth and their lives. Such are they for whom are the good things. Such are they who are the successful. - 9:88
**Again the above to ayat refer to those who believe.. certainly not all companions of Prophet P.B.U.H. were not true believers as mentioned in the ayat below **
“They swear by Allah that they are truly of you while they are not of you, but they are a people (hypocrites) who intend to divide (the Muslim nation).”
and therefore I won’t use names to refer in respect who the ayat exactly refers too… I don’t want to give names until we have valid list of who are hypocrites and who are not… we have been debating on sahih bukhari that a companion praises his bidah.. and other companion made Prophet angry by using a hadith that contradicts quran.. or whatsoever .. I don’t have a right to say who are in it and who isn’t I would certainly leave it to Allah SWT.
- Participated in battle of Badr?
" Those who believe and those who suffered exiles and fought ( and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah, they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah: and Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (2:218)"
I’ll have to read the tafseer(Commentary of the ayat) to be sure the ayat is meant for the battleof badr… First it refers only to believers… as I talked about earlier…secondly if it read in the light of Ohad some of the companions disobeyed Prophet P.B.U.H. in greed for Maal-e-Ganeemat when they were supposed to be fighting in the path of Allah SWT as the above ayat states.. again I would refrain from using this ayat for people..Allah knows the best who fought in the path of Allah SWT.
Now that I have answered your question can you please answer the questions you have been ignoring here is 1. Based on your interpretaton of the letter of Najul Balagah how do you justify Mawiya coming to war against Ameerul Momineen Hazrat Ali A.S and still be regarded as Ameer ul Momineen… how is it justified him coming against khaleefaey waqt Ameer ul Momineen and if he is.. why is nauzbuillah Yazeed not regarded Ameer ul Momineen how is he different from his father… Also how do you interpret the sermon i quoted.
May Allah Protect People From Errors Within and This Thread..Ameen