‘Punjabis run Pakistan’

Isnt this the bitter truth?

‘Punjabis run Pakistan’

http://www.hardnewsmedia.com/dec2004/pstory5.php

Altaf Hussain, the supremo of Pakistan’s Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), speaks to Sanjay Kapoor on the fate of Mohajirs post-Partition, the establishment’s constant suspicion of non-Punjabis and hopes for peace

What does a Pakistani look like? Altaf Hussain, the supremo of Pakistan’s Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), who was recently in India, harbours no confusion about it. In his reckoning, Pakistan, both as an idea and as a nation, has been taken over by the Punjabis, who today control the reins of power and are trying to mould the identity of the common Pakistani in their own image. To them, a Pakistani is a Punjabi or a Pushtu — fair and tall.

Worst-hit are those who left their villages and towns in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, chasing a flawed dream — a nation based on religion. In Hussain’s reckoning, these people have been targeted with the vilest of abuses — mohajir is just one epithet among a hundred. They remain torn by the dilemma of whether to accept or negate their subcontinental past.

Altaf Hussain, whose father was from Agra, has long been fighting the Punjabi Pakistani ruling establishment. Even though his party supports both the Central government and the Sindh provincial government, he is unsparing in his criticism of the vested interest that controls Islamabad. In a speech in London — where he has been in exile for 12 years — he called the Partition between India and Pakistan a “failure”.

Hussain believes that the end of Quaid-e-Azam Muha-mmad Ali Jinnah was hastened by a lobby in Rawalpindi that did not want peaceful relations with India. “He was eliminated as part of the conspiracy,” says Hussain. He also alleges that Jinnah’s right-hand man and former prime minister, Liaqat Ali Khan — also a mohajir according to the new political dispensation — was murdered to ensure that power remained with the Punjabis.

In the context of such thinking, what might happen to President Pervez Musharraf and his attempts to find peace with India? Hussain says that Musharraf, who has faced assassination attempts, is a liberal keen on bringing peace to this region. Hussain also claims to have a formula for solving the Kashmir issue, and believes that South Asia can emerge as another European Union.

Excerpts from the interview:

Although this is your first trip to India, you must have heard a lot about India from your father and forefathers…

Whenever my father and grandparents discussed India, they felt very sorry. They always remembered the good days they spent here. The life, the luxury — nothing is the same in our country. We don’t feel the same as we felt here. While religion is a great bond that brings people together, ethno-linguistic and cultural bonds, and living in the same land for centuries, have a lasting impact.

A lot of people feel that it was a mistake for Muslims to leave India on a call made by some leaders…

My father was not interested in leaving India after Partition. In fact, he did not leave in 1947. My elder brother had left and he put a lot of pressure on my father to come to Pakistan with the family.

For how many years after Partition could people come and go freely across the border?

Till 1953, after which the border was totally blocked by Pakistani authorities, [particularly] for Muslims who wanted to go to Pakistan.

But a lot of people came back to India.

Yes, but a lot of people wanted to go to Pakistan also.

So there was two-way traffic because people thought things would be better in Pakistan?

Yes, people thought there were more economic opportunities there and that they would get jobs. But, after 1953, the border was sealed. If it had not been sealed, maybe the two countries could have had stronger ties. Maybe Pakistan and India could have formed a union like the European Union. And maybe we could have had one currency.

As Maulana Abdul Kalam said to Indian Muslims, “You have for centuries lived in this land…this is your land. You are going to Pakistan because of Islam.” He said the land is not yours and not for you. They will not accept you. Pakistan will be for Bengalis, for Punjabis, for Sindhis, Pathans, Pushtoons…No one will accept you. And he seemed prophetic. The reason for the formation of the MQM was the fact that the people were feeling alienated from the other ethnic groups. We were called names. We were called makker (locusts), matrwa, panahgir, outsiders and mohajirs.

Mohajirs was a name given to you by them?

Yes. Pakistanis gave us that identity, although we kept on denying that we were mohajirs. “We are Pakistanis,” we said. Even people who were born in Pakistan were not accepted because their parents or grandparents were born in India. Even in job interviews, we were asked where we were born. Mohajirs were denied jobs.

Where do you think Pakistani leaders went wrong in nation-building?

In 1948, Quaid-e-Azam died. And then in 1951, Liaqat Ali Khan was murdered. From then on, the Punjabis took over. The murder of Liaqat Ali khan was the turning point when the entire cause behind Pakistan was lost. There was a conspiracy to eliminate Quaid-e-Azam immediately after Partition. I have repeated this in many speeches.

While Quaid-e-Azam was killed covertly, Liaqat Ali was blatantly murdered. Quaid-e-Azam was seriously ill and returning from Quetta. But he was given a ramshackle ambulance that was not even fully filled with fuel. In the Hub area near Baluchistan, the ambulance stopped because there was not enough fuel. Because he could not reach the hospital in time, he died in the ambulance. Can you imagine such poor facilities for a governor-general? The establishment conspired to remove the two big leaders — the founder-member and his right hand.

What happened next?

The hierarchy of Punjab took over the entire State of Pakistan and started encroaching on the rights of the smaller provinces, such as East Pakistan (today’s Bangladesh). Claiming that the Bengalis’ loyalties were doubtful, the authorities denied them their basic fundamental rights.

In the 1970 elections, the Awami League of Mujibur Rehman won with a majority. But the rulers of Pakistan and its Punjabi hierarchy were in no mood to transfer power to the winning party. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, with the support of his army generals, raised the slogan, “Idhar hum, udhar tum” (Here we rule, there you rule). This was entirely against democratic norms. Bhutto even said if any elected member of the national assembly from West Pakistan (present Pakistan) went to attend the first national assembly session in Dhaka, their legs would be broken on [their] return to Pakistan. All the religio-political parties, particularly the Jamaat-e-Islami, and almost all political parties of West Pakistan, joined hands with the army generals against the handing over of power to the Awami League. They launched a largescale negative propaganda campaign, calling the Bengalis traitors and Indian agents. The army launched fullscale operations against the Bengalis, killing millions of innocent men, women and children. The Jamaat-i-Islami was fully involved in this butchering. All this ultimately ended with the creation of Bangladesh.

After disintegration, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, of which Baluchistan, Sindh and the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) are now facing the same music as the Bengalis had. The same feeling of anger, deprivation and frustration has set in. To counter these voices, the establishment is once again branding the people in those provinces as traitors and enemies of Allah. Ethno-linguistic particularism has strengthened and is reaching its peak, and pluralism as a whole is weakening with every passing day. In fact, the time has come to say that the establishment of Pakistan should change its policy and should provide full provincial autonomy to maintain the unity of Pakistan.

You said you have a formula for solving the Kashmir problem.

To start negotiations, India and Pakistan should temporarily consider the Line of Control as the International Border. A series of dialogues should be carried out to resolve other issues like the opening of the Khokrapar border, the opening of a consulate office in Karachi, a ferry service between Mumbai and Karachi, promoting people-to-people contact, easing visa restriction policies, exempting people above the age of 60 years from visas and promoting trade between the two countries.

These are confidence-building measures, but what do you think is the solution?

After these are initiated, an understanding will be established and both countries will ultimately resolve the Kashmir issue, keeping in mind the aspirations of the Kashmiri people.

You think with Pervez Musharraf — a mohajir — at the helm in Pakistan, the chances of peace are better?

Yes. Not because he is a mohajir, but because of his liberal and progressive nature. Musharraf wants a better relationship with India and he also wants the resolution of the Kashmir issue in a peaceful manner.

What is your vision for the subcontinent?

If Pakistan and India are keen to live in harmony and tranquillity, they should learn from Europe where, after centuries of warfare, they have reached the conclusion that violence is not the answer.

When will you go back to Pakistan?

Whenever my country allows me to come back.

Trying to "complain" that punjabis run pakistan is like complaining that India is run by people who are hindu.

Punjabis by far and away outnumber any other ethnic group in Pakistan. Do the resulting maths yourself and it is not surprising that they dominate politics too.

What Altaf Hussain wants is nothing other than the domination of a majority by a minority.

Actually, scratch that. What he is after the domination of all Pakistan by himself. That traitorous bottom-sucking scum should be hung!

Isn't he the guy who is in self exile. That alone speaks volumes.
He wants minority to rule majority, tell him to move to Iraq. Join the Fallujans they can always use an extra a*&.

I wonder why Altaf Hussain comes up with such crap after a while and that too in India. Maybe he is paid heavily these days by his Indian firends.

U can't expect anything good from this man. Is'nt he the one who is living on chanda (read bhata) of poor people.

Well, I don’t think anyone bothers any more about what he has to say on issues confronting Pakistan. There was a time when even the Indians were impressed…the manner in which Mohajir youth gave up thier lives at his call and the way mohajirs rallied round him was just phenomenal…I believe that, that emotion and committment has waned over the years…
THis is one incisive editorial that I read in daily times on his recent diatribe in India…

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?date=12%2F7%2F2004

EDITORIAL: Mr Altaf Hussain’s demagogic foibles

The self-exiled “supreme leader” of the Mutahidda Qaumi Movement, Mr Altaf Hussain, has offered an “explanation of sorts” to Pakistanis for his untoward remarks during a recent visit to India where he talked about the “failure of the two-nation theory”. The remarks drew fire mostly from our religious leaders, especially those in Karachi where the MQM and MMA are locked in combat for the votes of the city. Mr Hussain is known for raking controversies and saying things that shock people. But since most of his observations are generally devoid of any deep intellectual thought or content, it is best to ignore him. Take, for instance, his observation on the two-nation theory. That the so-called theory was begotten of a peculiar political environment should be obvious from a reading of history. It should also be clear from Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah’s August 11, 1947, speech to the Constituent Assembly that Mr Jinnah looked at the theory as a political tool that had served its purpose with the creation of Pakistan.

If the theory continued to dominate state thinking after independence, it was only because the Muslim League moved away from the conception of the secular state put forward by Mr Jinnah in his speech, latching on, instead, to the Objectives Resolution for an “Islamic” state. Is it a coincidence that today the biggest proponents of the two-nation theory are the same religious parties that were opposed to the creation of Pakistan?

In talking about the two-nation theory and its “failure”, Mr Hussain is ignoring historical facts and actually playing on the same turf as the religious parties that he finds so loathsome. His explanation is therefore as useless as his observations on Pakistan’s genesis were flawed.

Indeed, after offering the explanation, Mr Hussain has gone on to reinforce his original folly. He says he won’t allow a “greater Punjab” comprising Pakistani and Indian Punjabs to come about and that Sindh had as much right to link up with the areas contiguous to it in India as does Pakistan’s Punjab. What “greater Punjab” is he talking about? On the Indian side what started as East Punjab is now three states. Moreover, it’s the Punjabis on the Indian side who want to affect linkages (not mergers) with the Punjab on our side because that is dictated by geography and language. But linkages between the two Punjabs do not mean “greater Punjab” in the shape of a consolidated administrative unit within Pakistan. The international border is a recognised line and economic and trade linkages are not meant to remove the line that differentiates Pakistan from India and vice versa. As for increased contact at cultural and economic levels, the government of Pakistan does not appear to have any objections to a similar arrangement between Sindh and Rajasthan. Talks between the two sides on opening the Khokhrapar-Monabao rail and road link are a part of the ongoing process of normalisation. Therefore Mr Hussain is merely indulging in rhetoric and bluster. But he goes on doing it because it has worked for him so far and there is no reason for him to stop doing it.

The MQM has come a long way. It is now one of the strongest supporters of General Pervez Musharraf. It changed its name from “Mohajir Qaumi Movement” to “Muttahida Qaumi Movement” to peel off the label “ethnic” from itself. Yet, in reality, it has remained just that — ethnic. With that pathology, and notwithstanding Mr Hussain’s thunderous utterances, how can it ever hope to play a bigger role in Pakistani politics? *

Re: ‘Punjabis run Pakistan’

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‘Punjabis run Pakistan’

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Sorry, dont agree on this. Musharraf and Aziz are not Punjabi's. They belong to Karachi, Sindh.

I like Altaf Bhai. He speaks the truth. Punjabis do run the country. The best solution is to let each province be autonomous. Make 4 countries out of it. In terms of Mohajirs, they should be given a choice to either go back to India or each province should take in approximately same number of them.

Altaf Bhai ki Jay!
MQM Zindabad
Jamat Islami Murdabad

:jhanda:

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Sorry, dont agree on this. Musharraf and Aziz are not Punjabi's. They belong to Karachi, Sindh.
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Musharraf is Mohajir himself from dehli!!

still think punjabis run pakistan??

apart from Nawaz shareef??? remind me any Punjabi PM in history of Pakistan.

do punjabis becomes CM of sindh??? or any other province?

I dont know what fuss about it. people from every city of Pakistan should be allowed and are allowed to work anywhere in pakistan regardless of where from are they.

Every time he opens his mouth Altaf gets verbal Diarrhoea. So no need to get excited. Kuttay bhonktay rehtay hain, karvan guzar jaate hain.

Dont people remember what happened in gujrat few years back!!. Even then they complain

Mohajirs have every thing in Pakistan they can think off.

*Remember one thing, the slogan of raceism seperates even those living together for ages. *

If the Mohajirs feel so abused why dont they return to the relative comfort of India or escape the grips of the state by migrating en mass like other minority groups.

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still think punjabis run pakistan??

apart from Nawaz shareef??? remind me any Punjabi PM in history of Pakistan.
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Nawaz Sharif is Kashmiri-Punjabi. When was in power, he placed all
Kashmiri-Punjabis in power..

In actuality, besides a random Noon who was the Gov-Gen. and Zia, there haven't been any Punjabis as heads of state.

In fact, it has been the Bhutto family from Sindh that has won most of the time democratically.

I am tired of this wholesale Punjabi bashing.

I am not a Punjabi myslef but the fact is that Punjabis surely have the biggest hearts. They are always welcoming and accomodating. We see all this nationalism thing amongst mohajirs of Karachia and others, yet Punjabis have always welcomed everyone with open arms.

Punjab Pakistan da dil ey.

that guy deserves to be tried by ATC and hanged or better yet crucified for all his crimes against innocent people of karachi. thousands were killed by his thugs and the thugs of haqiqi..all need to be killed.

i m a so called "mohajir" but i hate him and i consider my self sindhi because i was born in sindh

He is such a liar!

the only thing that runs pakistan and especially Punjab particulary Lahore for that matter is the tax paid by karachities. :D

where will the qadiyanis go :frowning:

^ Amrika or Germany. UK as a last choice.

I love Tafoo Bhaijan. He is very sexy. :jhanda: