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^ have u seen it with ur own eyes? and how do u know the person was healed?
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TJ yaar no i have not seen it with my own eyes
but my dad has and he told me
and thats as good as seeing with my own eyes
My maid was telling me the same thing, and she has seen it with her own eyes
anyways, i have heard of many many such incidents, and i really believe in this
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hmm really? like my mamoon once went to this pir for asthma n he put some sort of seeds in bananas n that was the only time he could eat a banana, other thatn he wasnt even suppose to touch em..i think he was better for a while, n then it was back to normal so he stopped...as far as i go, i dont even beleive in medicines let alone pirs
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yaar pir bhe kuch pohnchay huay hotay haen kuch nai hotay itnay ponhchay huay
and they do have some karamaat
ofcourse medicine, piri faqiri...end mein toh sab kuch Allah ke hi haath mein hota hae
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^
kahaan pahonchahy huway hotay hain????
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buzurgi k aala muqaam pe
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, like the pir i was talking about, who is helping people by curing their tumor
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Irem with all due respect sweetheart, Pirs cannot cure tumours.
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more rumors than truth....
i'd say that it wud not be far-fethced if we assume 99% of things (miracles etc) associated to peers as lies....
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^ Armughal, do you believe in the last 1 percent?............. I dont!
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lazy_daisy with all due respect sweetheart, pirs can indeed cure tumors.
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^
how?
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Aik shakss, jo ke maflooj ho gay thay …. donu haat or nichla dharr, hospital main ilaj se mayoos ho kar us ke ghar walay Swat Baba Jee (jo ke unn dinu hayat thay) ke pass lay kar gay Dua ke liay, Swat Baba Jee marhoom ne bad azz dua mashwara diya ke in ko androon Shindh ?? (pind ka naam yaad nahi) ke Shah Jee ke pass lay jain.
Yeh maflooj shakss bazat e khud piron or faqiron se dua laynay ka aqeeda na nahi rakhte thay, iss liay Shah jee ke pass nahi gay. kaii saal tak hospital se zair e ilaj rahay, afaqa momkin na howa. Bel akhair bhai ki zid se tang aa kar Shah Jee se dua laynay par razi howay.
Ponchay Shah Jee ke pass, Shah jee sari raat dua karte or nafal parrte rahay. Allah ki shaan daikhain subha seway aik haat ke baqi bilkul theek ho gay thay. Oss aik maflooj haat ke baray main Shah ne kaha dair se ponche iss haat neb hi theek ho jana tha.
Mukhtasaran Dua ho yah Dawa, Shafa dainay wali zaat Allah ki hay. Jiss raste se bhi ponchay.
Rahi Esa (AS) ki baat or piron faqiron se unn jissay waqe’ay ka zahoor/manssob hona humain zati tor par koi hayrat nahi.
(Pharrnay main aya hay), Hazoor (AS) farmatay hain, Meri omat ke Waliyon (Naik log) ka darja Bani Israel ke nabiyon jitna hay.
Baat ilaj ki ho rahi hay, aik Doctor ghar koi surgery kar sakta hay to kia yah mannay wali baat hay ke uss ke baad Doctor bannay walon main se koi bhi doctor surgery nahi kar sakta?
Jaisay naqli pir faqir hotay hain aise hi naqli doctor bhi hotay hain, aam si baat hay.
Adab
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^
I have to agree with each single word there.
point 1. is supposed to be noted specially.
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i just want to say this:
nigah hai vali mein vo taaseer daikhi, badalti hazaroun ki takdeer daikhi.
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^
Koi andaazaa kar saktaa hai uss kaY zor-e-baazu kaa
kaY nigah-e-mard-e-momin saY badal jaati haiN taqdeeraiN
:)
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I personaly havent came across to such special people, I have met some pirs, some were even PhD scholors and practising as Pirs. most of them were frauds, cause I didnt find anything special in them.
however there is one incidence that make me wonder!!
in my school one guy who has some kind of polio type, he couldnt walk or stand on his legs, he has to use wheelchair or move while he was sitting. good in studies, i have spent about 4 years in that school and it was near my house. i left that school but oftenly see him localy
and one day, to my amaze he was walking down the street, i asked him about it.
he told me its cause of one Pir, he is able to stand and walk on his legs,!!
he has been like this for about 15 years of his life. so such things make you think, there are some people with some healing powers, other thing about this Pir baba,,, he wasnt famous one, he hasnt have a one place, He goes one place to another not staying more than a week at one place. so he can heal if he can more people. he doesnt charge anybody a single penny.
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you have to remember that it is because of Allah swt that your friend was able to walk, not because of the pir. even if the pir was able to help, it still doesn't make him anything special and should not be held on a pedestal because everyone is equal in front of Allah and it is through His will that people are healed.
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no man, no matter how high in rank, is equal to the rank of the prophets (as)....
The Prophet (saw) has not equated the rank of the ulema of this ummah to the prophets of bani israel....
he has just mentioned that they had similar duties....
no prophet is to come after Muhammad (saw) and hence the duty of guidance (tableegh) rests with the ulema of the ummah....
but this does not in any way mean that they can reach the rank of the prophets (as)....
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Hey Guys/Gals,
What do you say about spirtual HEALERS. Why you can use computer and your brother or sister can not? Why one can memorise something after reading it once and the other can not remember a word even if he/she reads it 10 times.
There are many institutes and places in western world which train you how to improve or increase your mind power. Even there was a documentry recently on BBC that was about one of the similar institute which teach the student how to over come on gravity using mind power.
I AM SURE many of you will say that pirs are fraud but imagine that if a person trained for something spirtual (under the limit of Sharia) can also do things like that.
If you still deny then what about the this Buzurg who is mentioned in Sura Na'maal that he said to Prophet Suleman that he can bring Shiba's throne before the blink of EYE.
Please do not say any thing about what you do not know. If you did not experience something that does not mean it is fraud or non existing.
The sufi's and Darwesh go through the Mujahida's and Muraqba's to increase their power. Even In karachi I remember their was an institure started by Raees Amrouhi sahib (I don't know if it still exist or not) but it was training people in field of parapshycology. One should read the experience students were having.