A Pakistani Girl

[Gujranwalay]

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@diwana

I stand by each and every word I wrote.

Nothing which is out of reality.

maybe your perspective only changes when a close female of your immediate family has to go through such hardships/issues ??
When it’s only other people, it’s easy to judge them eh

[diwana]

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@Gujranwalay

maybe your perspective only changes when a close female of your immediate family has to go through such hardships/issues ??
When it’s only other people, it’s easy to judge them eh

No idea why people like you try to get personal when not able to find any intelligent or credible answer…

Anyhow, you are basically saying that those who support feminism all must have had bad experience to become feminists?

Above poster said: Being a man you cannot understand. I refuted that misconception which reeks of mere hypothesis. Nothing factual.

[bella88]

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^ please read the world reports and dont base actual facts on your personal encounters. we are not talking about what happens in rich educated families, most pakistanis are not that fortunate.

[Krypton]

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@Gujranwalay

That is also true for men, even where there are no religious laws. Now you go figure.
And I say this as a man.

Perhaps you haven’t met any of them successful women. Well, that backward narrow-minded society does not let them flourish much. Or that so-called society only sees their flourishment as being mothers and wives and serving them meals and taking care of the homes all day.

Pakistan is, was, and probably will always be a male-dominated society, where men are threatened by success and empowerment of women. Where their “mardangi” is challenged and under a threat whenever a women overtakes them in anything, from career, work, accomplishments, etc.
Their mentality is that the woman should remain in the 4-deewari. Be dependent on the men around her for everything.

Every now and then we hear honor killings, abuses, acid attacks, all in the name of so-called “ghairat” of these coward (islamic) men.
I’m glad we got out of that hellhole. I don’t think that place will change in my lifetime, or even centuries. I don’t have any hope for it.

:k:

[Simply_Seema]

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“Several gangs smuggle dozens of young girls from Pakistan to Dubai for prostitution every week. Nobody takes action against them"
Obviously because it’s not common enough

Agony of Pakistani women enslaved by Dubai sex trade - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

[diwana]

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No it is not common enough in Pakistan to say it happens everywhere or 9/10 women get abused in Pakisan. Flooding the news article does not make sense since news are news for a reason. Newsworthy. Get it?

Statistics says every 9 seconds a woman gets physically abused in USA. Not making up the number. Look it up.
Does that mean this happens everywhere in every household everyday?

Absolutely not.

What I am saying that statistics/news etc. need to be interpreted in the light of reality. These are good for awareness and doing something about it, not for bashing or generalizing.

Again at the risk of repetition, the blog was NOT written to find solution or simply for making awareness. It was meant to create a generalized, skewed and biased impression of Pakistani society.

Not necessarily a heaven, but not hell either, for a large majority of women.

[StrangeOne]

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Lmao, my prime minister makes the same comments, “Please please don’t bash Pakistan. Hamara image improve karain.”

[StrangeOne]

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Waisay I wasn’t allowed to go to the university (and the highly specific degree) I wanted to because it was out of the country and that wouldn’t have been an issue if I were a guy. So, I’ll never get my dream job because I’m a girl. Forever bitter.

[Southie]

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@diwana

No idea why people like you try to get personal when not able to find any intelligent or credible answer…

Anyhow, you are basically saying that those who support feminism all must have had bad experience to become feminists?

Above poster said: Being a man you cannot understand. I refuted that misconception which reeks of mere hypothesis. Nothing factual.

Dear diwana

I think when folks r discussing their personal experiences and you pooh pooh it, it is but fair they make assumptions as made in the post you took issue with. The best option in my humble opinion, is not to question and trivialized real experiences from real people. Respect begets respect.

you will agree. I am sure?

[diwana]

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@StrangeOne

Lmao, my prime minister makes the same comments, “Please please don’t bash Pakistan. Hamara image improve karain.”

Bashing is inherently wrong.

@StrangeOne

Waisay I wasn’t allowed to go to the university (and the highly specific degree) I wanted to because it was out of the country and that wouldn’t have been an issue if I were a guy. So, I’ll never get my dream job because I’m a girl. Forever bitter.

Sorry to hear that. The bitter part too.

[bella88]

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UN report states 90% of pakistani women suffer domestic abuse. but ofcourse some people will simply ignore that. illiteracy is also much higher in women as compared to men in pakistan. so sad how some people just ignore actual FACTS.
WORLD reports say pakistan is one of the 10 WORST countries for a woman. oh wait, someone just made that up because that hate pakistan. surely it wasn’t Indians though, because India also made that list.

[Sentry]

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@bella88

UN report states 90% of pakistani women suffer domestic abuse. but ofcourse some people will simply ignore that. illiteracy is also much higher in women as compared to men in pakistan. so sad how some people just ignore actual FACTS

That’s sad. It’s a pure problem in their (most pakistani mens) genetics. Guess it’s easier for wimps to pick on girls than face someone their own size

[bella88]

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@Sentry

That’s sad. It’s a pure problem in their (most pakistani mens) genetics.

it will never stop if men such as the ones on this thread show this kind of attitude where they ignore actual facts.

[Sentry]

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@bella88

it will never stop if men such as the ones on this thread show this kind of attitude where they ignore actual facts.

Ignorance is bliss.

[diwana]

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^ Yes it is.

Living in the news world or statistics never solved issues.

[bella88]

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^denying, ignoring facts sure does solve the issues :halo: no one should watch news or read the facts. just keep calm and deny deny deny

[goodname]

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@Sentry

That’s sad. It’s a pure problem in their (most pakistani mens) genetics. Guess it’s easier for wimps to pick on girls than face someone their own size

I suspect it’s not so much genetic predisposition to male chauvinism as lack of proper education that explains, partly, why Pakistan continues to rank among the 10 worst countries for women year after year. Education is in shambles across large swathes of the country and people from low to mid income background in particular have hardly any access to decent schooling.

Pakistani government needs to spend a lot more on education than it currently does. And there needs to be a stronger focus on social studies and civics. Right from elementary school, students should be instilled basic values like seeing females as equals, not treating their female relatives as their possession, realizing that there’s nothing “honorable” in being oppressive. Basically common sense stuff but a disturbingly large segment of the population doesn’t seem to be getting the memo so perhaps better quality education can help.