A Pakistani Girl

[Southie]

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@Ghost14

So all of this happened to the author? She was abused, bullied, suffers from depression, and has a dadi who hates her for being a girl? How do you know this?

@Southie

You are now being more sensational. Of course I was not there. But I don’t have a reason to think she is making it up. That’s the way it works. Folks pen down their experiences.

If you think she is simply making some parts up, that explains your posts. A pre - disposition to question someone’s experience. Not my cup of tea.

@Ghost14

Ironically, you are speculating about my intent.

Anyway, you don’t know her intent, or whether this actually happened to her, so my position that this could be a statement about Pakistani girls is valid, **because other people also mentioned something along the lines of “this is probably not representative of every Pakistani girl”. **

If this is her experience, then, as tragic as this is, it’s only the experience of one very unlucky girl. Most girls don’t have the luxury of naukars or schooling, so she is far from the average girl. Secondly, boys and girls all over the world suffer from bullying and abuse, although the number of unreported rapes is much higher in Pakistan. That said, a lot of those rapes happen in rural areas, far from this girl’s class and neighbourhood.

The only thing which is probably universal to every woman in this thread, albeit to varying degrees, is the double standards. But just like the trolls were putting forth hyperbole in calling this propaganda, so were the women who claimed that “men don’t understand” etc, when they only thing they (most likely) have in common with the author is the double standards. And it is also highly presumptuous to state that a brown, Muslim man wouldn’t understand what it feels like to be discriminated against in a Western country, post 9/11, especially if he (or she) happens to work in a field dominated by white men.

Anyway, my point is simply this: if this is not meant to be a statement about what Pakistani women go through, then it is just the very unfortunate experience of one girl. The trolls calling at propaganda are wrong, but so are the women who are jumping in to defend this piece as if it is representative of all women, double standards not withstanding as (I hope) we all agree do exist. Like Jolie said, the line is somewhere between “this doesn’t happen” and “see all that we women have to go through”. And I don’t just mean what’s written, but the underlying attitude which a lot of posts are laced with.

There you go again. It was very clear from ur post at the top that you didn’t buy into the notion ALL these happened to her. When called on it, you come up with a lame explanation - esp the first line re irony. I had two options - call ur post silly for asking me how I know all of this is true. Or the option I took. Clearly I don’t know what’s in ur mind. But ur posts speak for themselves.

NOONE claimed this happens to ALL women. So bringing that up at the end is nothing short of trolling. I used that word, since u so aptly used that to describe others.

The ladies who commented on those trolls were spot on. As for jolies position, again irrelevant. For no reasonable person is claiming this happens to ALL women.

Stop with the false equivalency. Comparing the trolls with the ladies who “defended the piece.” The former ridiculed the blogger. In that context, the ladies said men won’t understand this. Come on now. That comment was not directed at those who wouldn’t ridicule this blog.

your statement “ladies defending this piece as if it happened to ALL women” makes no sense. They defended this piece AGAINST the trolls who ridiculed the blog. Most did NOT claimed this happened to ALL women. You are (probably) deliberately muddying the waters by assigning a false motive to the ladies who spoke out against the trolls. The piece needed defending against the trolls. Don’t equate that to the ladies stating this happened to ALL women.

Let me repeat clearly. This is one lady’s experience. It does happen in India and Pakistan. No shame in admitting it. Reasonable persons are NOT claiming this happens to EVERYONE. So give that a rest.

And when did “other people also mentioned such and such so my argument is valid” become a good way to make ones point.