a gun in your house

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But then isnt it well worth to put 911 on auto dial and press that while u r looking for the gun...I have always heard that when something like a looney guy depending on if its a burgalar(daakoo or chore)..mind u there is big difference between both...but anyway its always better to yeild to their demands of watever they r asking...its only money/valuables or watever...guys dont have to really show their macho macho side trying to be the "he men " ..and avoid making the situation worse...Hopefully...and hopefully situation like this never plays itself in real life...Mase is another good thing to keep handy at all times...I know there r some that r attached to key chains...

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and dat shot gun i unno watz itz called all i knoe is you have 2 reload after every fire

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I used to bring my service 9mm home two years ago but then stopped. Cuz I kinda noticed that I was slacking off securing it and there are kids at home and they find everything.

Keeping guns home is a very big responsblity. Last year we heard about this vetern cop who's kid accindently shot himself with his off-duty weapon (and this kinda stuff happens all too often). Apparently he was playing and searching for his ball in the closet and found the gun instead, somehow. Kid died, parents were devasted, cop went through investigation, I dunno how he's gonna deal with this when he gets his job back.

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if you dial 911, it takes them a few minutes to get there, question is what can happen in those few minutes. yeah if someone wants to tale my dang TV and watch etc, I will even help em load it in their car as long as they just go after that. I am really not concerned about that. I am more concerned with deranged lunatic types. In that case if you are not showing your macho macho side and try to be teh ‘he man’ then u are in for it. Because the guys intention is to hurt you or your family, and you taking a chance to go up against him may or may not work, if it works great , if it does not work maybe you atkeast bought some time.

and its not just dakoo, or chors, but rapists, racist thugs etc etc. you just have to be prepared.

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I agree Mr F. Nothing will sober up a lunatic more than facing the barrel of a shotgun. We have a pump-action one so even if it doesnt have bullets, its an impressive thing to do the chick-chick and aim. That'll do the job so much better than dialing a phone or waving a bat.

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There are some Illinois specifric reguulations as well as Chicagoland regulations that need to be followed before you can have a gun. You would need a FOID card from http://www.isp.state.il.us/media/docdetails.cfm?DocID=38 and then in some localities you can own only long guns, in some both long and handguns but not semi auto rifles or large cap magazines and in others notably Chicago and Skokie, no guns at all. Des Plaines, Park Ridge, Mt Prospect, Schaumburg etc all allow some degree of gun ownership though Oak Park, Wilmette and some others have partial restrictions.

A good pump shotgun would be a nice thing to defend your family with but do shoot it and also get the lady in your life as well as your children above 10 to learn this as well. You will not regret this decision, believe me.

If you need assistance in selecting a gun, let me know. I have some years’ experience in shooting and owning guns and would be glad to assist a fellow Chicagoan however legally possible.

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hey thank you for the info, advice and offer of help.
I am still struggling with the idea a little, but will ping you for more info/advise as I think more about it :)

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All these statistics about you being more likely to hurt ur family etc. if u have a gun in the house is rubbish... These stats apply to careless shmucks who leave their weapons unattended and unsafe.

I initially thought Fraudz was just being over-paranoid but then I realized that most of you folks are from the US and things aren't that great when it comes to law and order.

Fraudz, get one... but have proper training and just make sure u keep it in a safe place... if the sole purpose is security, it could even be kept loaded in your side drawers, as long as you find a way to keep the young ones away from it. Guns come with good safety features and are prefectly safe if handled properly.

I have been around guns since a very very young age... but was taught well about all the security/safety issues. Wait till a certain age, and after they are 8, 9 yrs or older, they can be given some proper training about gunhandling.

If the intention for the gun is to be kept at a safe place and the sole purpose is to defend against unwelcomed intruders, there should be no doubts about a decision to get/not get a gun. Question yourself if you can handle it safely or not...

I remember as a kid, some uncle living a few houses from us.. brought home an undetonated granade from an army exercise firing range with shells of tanks and what not... (he found it lying somewhere). No one exactly knows what happened... but the thing went off, killing himself, the kids' dadi. The mother was in the bathroom doing wuzoo. Apparently, the uncle was just checking the granade out, playing with it, some say he gave it to the kids, and the kids were playing with it. Khair, sad story.

Bottom line,,,, all weapons/ammo is dangerous and needs ultimate care while handling it. So despite me being totally for it (getting a gun i.e)... you will need to make sure ur careful with it.

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We live in a suburban area so not much goes on here. We have no alarm system on our house. In the mornings, we turn cars on and leave to let them run and get warmed up for a few minutes - nothing has ever happened. The worst we have to worry about it racist rednecks but they're generally pretty stupid so they're not a big threat.

My Dad keeps a shotgun underneath his bed inside of thise huge plastic case. He told me about it and so that night I decided to go check it out but I couldn't open the case (I guess that's a good thing).

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very common punjabi/zimeen-dari weaponry.

Get rid of that 7mm, mostly outlaws carry it.
Not a good idea to carry it in case police stops you with that(even with a licence)

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This cautionary note DOES NOT apply to your story of the undetonated grndae. There is no safe way of handling that by civilians; even soldiers wear protective gear when going near those.

Moral: don't bring home undetonated ammo. Call professionals. Sheesh.

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What exactly is zimeen-dari weaponry?

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Get rid of that 7mm, mostly outlaws carry it.
Not a good idea to carry it in case police stops you with that(even with a licence)
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Why outlaws carry that?

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LI, can u point out where I'm recommending bringing home undetonated granades?

The guy was an army officer... just a stupid one. The bottom line is, never assume its safe. Even if its a 60 yr old WWII granade. That has seen rain and snow and heat and hasn't detonated. The officer obviously assumed it was a dead granade... pretty much, just a toy.. and it wouldnt do any harm. And he ended up killing himself and the family. You need ultimate care, even if its an unloaded airgun!

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1) in punjab villages those weapons are very very common.

2) NO butt/grip easy to hide-- plus it is a rough/low cast/deadly weapon.
Always used for offense.

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I never said you did. You told the anecdote to make your point to handle every thing with care. Unfortunately, not every thing can be handled with care. Somethings just should NOT be handled [period]. And, that's where I am pointing the flaw in your cautionary note.

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You need ultimate care, even if its an unloaded airgun!
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Now now, let's not get carried away.

Yaar, you don't have to go to extremes to make a point.

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Mate uve obviously never carried a gun. You have no idea what all this means now do you?? Its not a mazaak. Its not about extremes... You simply can never be too careful. This unloaded airgun will one day be loaded without you realizing. If your not religiously strict with your safety measures, you'll pay one day. That is for people who are around guns... There simply isnt an option. You gotta treat it as loaded. There are strict rules, that every responsible gun carrier follows no matter what.

There are so many times when someone will tell you... 'yeah its unloaded' and its not. Just happens... Sometimes you forget... Must've happened atleast 10 times with me. There are 100's of instances, where ur 100% sure the gun has the safety 'on' and you look and its on 'unsafe... a slight bump toe the trigger and it can go off blowing someones head off. I'm talking about people for whom gunhandling is almost an everyday thing... The point with the granade was... for him, it was a piece of metal... an old dud grenade that seemed cool... he paid the price... yeah you cannot and must not handle it... but it happened right? and it wasn't some 5 yr old kid.... it was a fully trained army officer... people get shot cleaning their guns all the time.... why do u think that happens?? are they dumb? no, they are not... they 'assume' its empty.. or they are casual and careless with it.

Baal ki khaal na utaara karo. Theres nothing extreme about anything... you can die from a powerful airgun... you can definitely lose an eye very very easily... so nothing can be taken lightly.