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gotcha...but noone mentioned the plane part...so u gotta gimme credit for that.
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gotcha...but noone mentioned the plane part...so u gotta gimme credit for that.
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I don't know what plane part you are looking for. But Kasi was handed over to CIA by the Govt. of Nawaz Sharif.
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I don't know what plane part you are looking for. But Kasi was handed over to CIA by the Govt. of Nawaz Sharif.
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...and was taken to an awaiting plane within hours after his arrest.
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*Originally posted by hskhan: *
...and was taken to an awaiting plane within hours after his arrest.
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Yeppers.
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*Originally posted by queer: *
allow me.
everyone makes a big hue and cry when something involves the US. every year, pakistanis are executed by the KSA on charges of drug pushing and pimping. no one in pak cares too hoots about that. now a guy who shot two dead americans in america gets the cool-aid, and everyone's out chanting injustice.
point being, people need to chill. it's nothing they dont condone already.
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Quite a misleading assumption YOU made..I said before and I'll say this again: I care, where ver Pakistani citizens are being executed or jailed. The question here isnt about the crime, we've all moved beyond it rather the double standards of the Pakistan government. I say if Pakistanis can be executed in the US, we sure as hell can execute any Americans caught in breaking Pakistani laws. You bringing up Saudi Arabia is to expose the hypocrisy in our principles, which you have thoroughly failed. If a Saudi citizen are caught breaking my country's laws lets send them to the death chamber as well. So your interjections have not really changed the basis of my argument: the erosion of Pakistani soverignty.
Ak…bro, I know what your saying. But I mean when Kasi is about to be executed, the people protesting is a little bit too late don’t you think? I think we (myself included) should have made a bigger deal when Kasi was being handed over to the US in the first place! We should not allow Pakistani citizens to be handed over to the US! This is insane that we can talk about him when he was facing death not when he was alive being taken away by the Americans. I am not a hypocite, when I blame Pakistani people I blame myself also. I don’;t want any of our poeple being treated like this PERIOD.
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*Originally posted by RajputFury: *
Quite a misleading assumption YOU made..I said before and I'll say this again: I care, where ver Pakistani citizens are being executed or jailed. The question here isnt about the crime, we've all moved beyond it rather the double standards of the Pakistan government. I say if Pakistanis can be executed in the US, we sure as hell can execute any Americans caught in breaking Pakistani laws. You bringing up Saudi Arabia is to expose the hypocrisy in our principles, which you have thoroughly failed. If a Saudi citizen are caught breaking my country's laws lets send them to the death chamber as well. So your interjections have not really changed the basis of my argument: the erosion of Pakistani soverignty.
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potato potayto
i wasnt contesting anything you brought up in the first place. pakistanis should enforce its laws upon aliens living within its boundaries. americans and saudis included.
the other point being, you personally probably do care wherever pakistanis are executed, but the majority raise a hue and cry about it only when it's done in the US, even if it means defending a double murder while ignoring death sentences for much lesser crimes elsewhere. once again, your personal views might differ, but isnt what i am talking about.
"potato potayto
i wasnt contesting anything you brought up in the first place. pakistanis should enforce its laws upon aliens living within its boundaries. americans and saudis included."
My point exactly.
"the other point being, you personally probably do care wherever pakistanis are executed, but the majority raise a hue and cry about it only when it's done in the US, even if it means defending a double murder while ignoring death sentences for much lesser crimes elsewhere. once again, your personal views might differ, but isnt what i am talking about."
Clearly you responded to my message, so I don't think that it was an unfair assumption on my part to believe that it was addressed towards me.
Pakistan should step up to the plate and reclaim it's soverignty. If our citizens are being executed in the world, I want Pakistan to be executing some Americans. After all this is the game that was set up, we might as well play it.
stop fighting.
Rajput
definetly its disgusting the way pakistan government just gave kasi to the criminal americans. Makes me embarrassed just thinking about it doesnt these people at the top got any pride at all!
I am just amazed at the way government capitualte to the enemies of islam but not surprised.
And i agree with you people should be more responsible the protest was too late and the government got away with another crime against the ummah.
I think your right on the money with this. Atleast I and hope you, will speak up sooner. If an American is caught doing something wrong in a foriegn country everyone from the State Department to even the President get involved to ensure that their citizen gets off with liitle or no punishment. Where is the Pakistani government? As hundreds were being rounded up in the US, all the gov’t could do was give some lip service. All talk and no action. How easy it was for the Pakistani courts to convict Mr. Pearls alleged killers when the hate crimes against Pakistanis in the US go unpunished. Talk is cheap, until we all decide to speak in a unified manner as Pakistanis, Muslims, no one will take us seriously. Ak, Bro keep up the good fight :k:
Yes the actions of the pakistani govt in this issue were unfortunate-they should have tried the man and punished him in Pakistan, under with US observers just to cover the IR angle.
However, he was guilty and in that respect we should be thanking our Govt for aiding a nation in the capture and punishment of a cold blooded killer.
Re: Danny Peal case:
"Alleged killers"-some savage jungle beast cut of the head of that poor man who was just trying to do his job-wether it was them or not, they certainly had knowledge of it and thus deserved to be killed. Danny P seemed like the nicest guy in the world. I was close to tears when I heard the details of his brutal and untimey murder-what animals could have commited such a crime to such a innocent man?
May Allah give Mir Amal Kainsi a place in jannat and accept him as a shaheed. Amin.
The saddest part is how our supposedly sovereign and independent govt handed him over to the FBI--in fact helped the FBI capture him and then take him over to the USA when we didn't even have extradition treaties with them.
As if the CIA haven't killed anyone.
As for Daniel Pearl-IF he was innocent than his death was wrong but I don't know why the whole of the world went into mourning for the death of one jew when thousands of Muslims are killed in cold blood daily.
AND there is quite a lot of evidence that he actually WAS a CIA agent too....!!
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**May Allah give Mir Amal Kainsi a place in jannat and accept him as a shaheed. Amin. *
aik toh har khacchar ko hum shaheed bana laitay hain. The dude was a col blooded murderer and got his punishment here, as far as his punishment in afterlife.
Even if he was not extradited, he probably should have reached the same fate in Pakistani courts.
shaheed..my a$$
Asif
ignore the fraudster he is on side of Bush so ignore his silly comments killing CIA agents is justified they have declared war on islam!
Before the so called american fanclub start crying foul then explain the CIA murder of 6 people in Yemen by missle last week without evidence, judge or jury the likes of the CIA are the real murderers and terrorists!
If CIA want to live by the sword then they will die by the sword also 
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Asif
ignore the fraudster he is on side of Bush so ignore his silly comments killing CIA agents is justified they have declared war on islam!
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so murder is allowed in your version of islam? Last time I checked..murder was not allowed :) must be an HT ruling.
duck the point y not
CIA never commit murder and terrorism do they boy living in Bushland has really brainwashed you !
How sad 
"Re: Danny Peal case:
"Alleged killers"-some savage jungle beast cut of the head of that poor man who was just trying to do his job-wether it was them or not, they certainly had knowledge of it and thus deserved to be killed. Danny P seemed like the nicest guy in the world. I was close to tears when I heard the details of his brutal and untimey murder-what animals could have commited such a crime to such a innocent man?"
First of all, I never said what happened to Pearl was right. I did not know the man and nor can I say how he was, but no one deserves that type of death. "ALLEGED Killers" because of the Media frenzy and the US pressure. To be sure, it was more likely to be Pakistanis who committed this act, however with all the international, in particular US attention on Pakistan, the government could dig up petty criminals and pretty much frame them for the murder. Again, not saying it happened, it COULD knowing the Pakistani government that is the (and pardon my language) B**tch of the world. Let me ask you, why isn't Pakistani Govt putting pressure on investigating Mr. Butt, the man who died in INS custody during 9/11 or pressuring for the release of other Pakistani prisoners in the US or Afghanistan? Are all of them Al-Qaeda/Taliban? I don't think so! The day Pakistani govt starts valuing the lives of it's citizens, is the day Pakistan becomes a better nation.
Condemn what?
I am just surprised by this article by jang. I really want to know what the people were condemning? Aimal killed to people! Wouldnt he have gotten the same punishment in Pakistan?!
Thousands attend Kasi’s funeral, condemn US
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QUETTA: Over 10,000 mourners on Tuesday attended the funeral of Mir Aimal Kasi, a Pakistani national who was executed in the US over charges of shooting dead two CIA employees.
Crowds of religious and political leaders, friends and strangers poured into the Ayub stadium in Quetta. Banners slung across the overflowing stadium displayed Kasi a martyr. Aimal, ‘martyr of Islam’, was written on a banner, while another read: "There is no God but Allah," showing Aimal's last words before he was killed by lethal injection on Friday.
Kasi’s family belongs to an influential Baloch tribe. US authorities rejected last-minute appeals for clemency from Kasi's family, the Pakistani government and Amnesty International.
Pakistan's ambassador to the US, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, also attended the funeral. Legislators in the new federal parliament said prayers for the dead man before voting for a house speaker.
Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said Aimal Kasi was our brother. Speakers at the funeral condemned the United States. Kasi's coffin in a procession brought to the ancestral Killi Ibrahimzai graveyard, where he was laid to rest alongside his late father. Kasi's brother Naseebullah asked people to pay respect to the martyr by calming down.
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I am just surprised by this article by jang. I really want to know what the people were condemning? Aimal killed to people! Wouldnt he have gotten the same punishment in Pakistan?!
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nice point..esp nowadays with mushy around. im betting alis theory would be correct.