A girl/guy situation - Comment Please

This situation is my friends situation. I can’t explain it that much since i don’t know the details and i don’t know the girls of “canada”. how they are. I am going to post my whatever points comesi n my mind which i have extracted while talkign with him so make your judegments and comments based on this conversation.

Few Noted about my friend and the girl:

  • Friend has never met that girl, though they had video chats couple of times
  • Friend was a player. There were lots of girls around him but he never liked ANY. used to talk/date them for few months and then bye bye
  • According to friend, this girl believes she is hot and lots of guys has asked her out and she has turned everyone down. she doesn’t talk to any guy “That much”. But she does talk to guys. she has “guy friends”. met them either in unviersity or through some friends but she never hangout or meet these guys in “person”. she is just so much into studies. thats all what she does.
  • Its been almost 3 years these guys are talking to each other ON/OFF. Everytime girl stopped talking to the guy for some stupid reasons (i dun know what reasons were. never asked him). and after 3-4 months .. she started talking to him again.

Rememer: I don’t know the details scenario.

  • My friend likes this girl (thats what he has told me) but according to him he is in friendzone (girl told him that you are my buddy. not someone i am afraid off).

  • My friend said to her, how can i be buddy when you spend almost your day talking to me either on text or on phone.

  • Me to friend: because she does not have anyone around and every girl needs an attention and you are giving her that attention

  • Me to friend: but if you think, the way you guys are acting. you guys are in sort of relationship but you guys are in “denial”

  • My friend: I think so too. I asked her. She said I talk to every guy like that. I said, so you talk to every guy that much? if you are giving that much time to me, then you must be spending the same amount of time to your studies and other guys. is your day more than 24 hours? to which she replied. you are my friend. to which he replied, I got it .. but am i just another friend or i am more than other friends? she said, ofcourse more than other friends.

  • According to my friend, that girl doesn’t talk to any guy that much. the first thing that she does when she gets up is to text him. all day long texting and it ends up just before they sleep.

  • I asked my friend to ask her out. He did and to which she replied that I don’t want to be in a relationship. He argued, the way we are .. we are already in relationship (almost). she said, but things are better in this way as long as we are buddies. things would complex if we get into relationship. I want to be carefree. to which friend said, I would not add to your problems. u know me very well - I am mature enough to understand the ups/downs of relationship and i dun expect you to be around me 24 hours since you have ur studies and family priorities.

My conclusion
This guy is just obsessed with her. Since he can’t be at same level that he always was with other girls. so its jsut his obsession. But he is not believing in this thing. He always say, that i like her. but i don’t love her. that girl is so not the girl someone would like to marry but still I would love to be with her.

Thats all i can think off right now. I will post more if things come up in my mind. Lets see what you guys say. Since from my point of view, this girl clearly likes him but she just don’t want to do any commitment. on theo ther hand this guy is obsessed about her .. I dun think that he loves her. but he is unable to move on since he does not have any other girl around.

I am not sure if cultural (canada/pakistan) difference is making an impact here or not. Thats why i thought to share since whatever advice i gave to taht guy would totally work for the girl if she was born/raised in pakistan but in this case. its not working

P.S:
I know its my biggest mistake to post in Life1 section. since this thread has nothign to do with MIL, SHADI, etc .. :stuck_out_tongue: .. and i know there gona be lots of off topic replies ..

Re: A girl/guy situation - Comment Please

thats just an attachment+habit of each other..no love thing involved..

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I said the same and i asked him that if you are so attached then ask her out .. .. to which she replied that she doesnt wantt to be in a relationship now. she might say yes after a year or so .. or it was just a better way to say no D:

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its so typical kinda internet+cell love , best way to kill time n had some good feeling of virtual relation as well .

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^thats something new. What if these guys meet up and continue to be the way they are?

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that would b a plus point , means that they are serious abt this relation n feeeling for each other was real too.

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lol .. man thats the thing which is confusing me .. and I am trying to put things straight for him .. .. I have doubts about thsi girl .. :s .. I duno ..but i just don't feel it .. .. I dunoo .. may be i am wrong .. he knows better .. :s

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T1000- The truth is the guy, as he claims, has girl attention around him all the time but since this girl is not agreeing to go on a date with him or to have a "relationship" with him, that is what is attracting him to the girl :D. He can't take no for an answer i suppose and now he wl do whatever it takes to get the girl to agree to it. It's just how bad boys/bad girls think ;) lolz.

My suggestion to him would be to distance himself from the gir, maybe that would make her value him better. Maybe she will realise what she feel for him is more than as a friend. But the guy should not play with the girl's feeling since he said she is not marriage material, then why push her to get into a relationship with her?. That's unfair.

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why you care so much abt ur friend , bhai worry abt ur own shaadi first :D

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So true .. thats why i said he is obsessed ..

dude, I had this discussion with him .. and he turned down every single advice of mine with the comment "you don't know canadian girls. I know them better". To which i replied that girls are girls. there is nothing like canadian or paksitani. but later i thought i should discuss this thing since i dun have that much interation with people here in canada .. where people = girls ..

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well said :k:

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Your friend saying this girl isn't the type that "someone" would want to marry is a pretty strong statement. And I wonder why he would make such a comment. Is it because she has many guy friends that she's not worthy of marriage? (That would be double standards).

You say that your friend claims he's not in love with her but would like to be with her. That seems more like an ego issue. Perhaps your friend is used to girls throwing themselves at him and giving into him (as you said that he dates them for a few months and then dumps them) and this girl is not surrendering to him in the same way, so it's driving up the wall and he feels a greater need to have her. I wonder if maybe the girl can SENSE that your friend has this kind of mentality and that could be why she doesn't want to have a relationship with him. If she knows that he dumps girls after a few months, maybe she doesn't want to be included in that list of girls.

You think the girl clearly likes him. Okay. So, you can clearly like someone as a friend. It doesn't have to be "liking" in the romantic sense. Your friend has asked her out and has tried to convince her that they are more than friends.....but she doesn't have the same feelings. Whether or not she secretly or subconsciously has romantic feelings for your friend is debatable.............BUT............what matters more is what she has told your friend: That she's not interested in a relationship. She's being direct with him. Would he (your friend) have the balls to be direct with her and tell her that "Look, I just wanna be with you for a good time. I'd like to have a relationship with you that doesn't lead anywhere because i personally don't think you're the type of girl that any guy would want to marry." Would he be that direct with her? Something to think about.

He's let her know how he feels, the ball is now in her court. If he finds it difficult to maintain a friendship/communication with her because of his lusty crush....then he can opt to maintain a distance from her and go for some other girl who will be more than willing to enter a relationship for just a few months.

And if he were to maintain that distance....and if she starts calling him......it could be because she wants his attention.....it could be because she simply misses him as a friend...or that she realizes she has feelings for him. The absence might make her miss him and appreciate him more. So, he can try the "Playing hard to get" or "Blowing hot and cold" or "MIA" approach....but her "missing" him is not a guarantee that she is in love with him (could be but may not be). You say that this girl just wants attention from him. And you also say that sh has a lot of guys around her. It seems odd that a girl who receives a lot of attention from many guys would be so hung up over the attention of JUST your friend.

If the girl is playing him/deliberately stringing him along (takes a playette to know a player)...that's messed up. But it's also wrong to give a guy advice on how to "get" the girl when he doesn't have an overall favorable opinion of her and doesn't want something long term.

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to most of your arguments, I don't have answer since i don't know the details. let me see what else i can asnwer

I dun know why he said that. probably, she is kind a girl who doesn't do "ghardhari" (khana pakana etc) or whatever. probably she is so pampered that this guy believes that he would nto be able to keep her life pampered the way she is in her house .. :s .. I have no vague idea why did he said all that

2: Umm, I guess girl believes that he is really decent guy. or at least my friend never told em anything from which i can makeup something that girl doesn't have an idea what kind a guy he is. but if I have to comment about the guy then HELL YEAH to whatever you said. he was kind a guy who had girls around. who used to thrown them on him but he turned them down all over. I always make fun of him .. that this is the curse of every girl you turned down .. :p

when i said that she has lots of guys around I mean, she has lots of guys as friends and all of them would love to talk to her IF she wants to talk to them. but she doesn't. she has very limited conversation with them and ON/OFF specific to few topics. and thats the biggest reason I am saying that the GIRL likes the guy as well but she just doesn't want to be in a realtionship for hell of reason. why would she talk to a guy that much if she doesn't like him? if the case is just attention then she can get attention from lots of other people around her. there could be only 2 possible answers to this questions. either she is just playing around to pass her time .. or she is taking her time .. .. since she does not want anything serious, so she is letting things in flow

Okay one more thing came up in my mind. According to the girl. All of those guys are "better" looking compared to my friend .. :s .. i duno if that helps in this case or not .. but just popped up in my head.

I asked teh guy to step back. let her miss you .. to which he said .. Not now. I want to make her more dependent on me .. more attached so taht if i may leave she misses me.
I believe one of the reason of his above statement would be "his" insecurity. since he knows there are other people around as well so if he leaves she might not miss him since she has other people to make her feel special or something like that .. :s (thats my personal comment since i know this guy very well). OR it could be that he is really good at this and when he wants to play this trump card, he wants to be sure

One more thing. the girl is very conservative .. she does not open up with people. she is really frank and comfortable with this guy and she keeps are private/personal things to herself but she has told to HIM.
To which i said, how do you know taht she has told things only to you or to other as well ..

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I am sorry this may offend you but your friend is jerk! He needs to get a life. I am glad the girl is not giving in to his demands cuz he's so not the type of guy any sane girl should go for.

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I used even worst words infront of him .. #$@$@$@#$@ .. I said stop messing around .. .. every girl is not for you .. .. just accept your defeat .. which he is not .. ..

On a side note, sometimes i think what if things could be good between em. I would be really happy to see him settled .. but .. Iduno

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He is not in love

She is not in love and probably will never be in love with your friend...she is studying and is being smart by not getting involved. She is not as stupid as your friend might think.

He needs to move on...because she will make sure he wont be missed

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why you are saying that she is not in love? if he gives her time then she might say yes to him eventually (after when she is done with her studies) ?

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Your friend is a jerk....and I think it's wrong to even listen to his bakwaas....let alond advise him.

The much bigger concern, in my opinion, is not the question as whether she shares her personal issues with other guys besides him. I think it's more worrying that a guy like that might even disclose her personal issues to others as a way of "getting her back" for rejecting him.

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I don';t think so. for the first time i have seen him posessive about "ANY" girl. he respects her a lot and i have never heard a single **** from him about her .. He doesn't even know i am discussing this thing here otherwise he would have been really pissed at me.

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Very well said. That's why i feel so mad at people who are into online relationships because its so hard to tell what the other person is all about and what they are upto.