‘Fatwa’ against Sania, woman tennis star

[queer]

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@suroor_ca02

arey baba, she is a celebrity now, every celebrity is analyzed, disected from their personal life to whatever skill they have. they did it with diana, with imran khan to brad pit and jennifer aniston, everyone is targeted, so why is it such a surprise if this is happening to her as well? as for twisting beliefs, i was refering to the previous posts where someone disected maymuna’s post to prove that she can wear mini skirt in islam. ni think she should say something or these ‘mullahs’ will keep coming after her, whether u all like it or not.

in that case the answer is simple. just because a person is a celebrity doesnt mean she is any different a human than any one else. instead of blaming her, blame those vultures who obsess over celebrities. mullahs can pass all the fatwas they want, sania has no obligation to even acknowldge their existance. the fatwa on dress code carries no extra message for her than it does for you. move on sista.

[funny_jammies]

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@Sheraz CT

so any muslim who thinks its wrong to wear a skirt in public is insane..man shut the hell up…hindus can’t tell us how we should dress okkk

no - but any muslim who thinks he has the right to tell someone else that wearing shorts to tennis is wrong, is insane.

And yes, if this is the state of some of you so called ‘muslim clerics’ and other sane muslims will not raise their voice to corret such lunacy, I will tell them to shut up. I will not tolerate gender discrimination under any guise.

[rvikz]

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@Sheraz CT

so any muslim who thinks its wrong to wear a skirt in public is insane..man shut the hell up…hindus can’t tell us how we should dress okkk

how everyone knows what every muslim do it private life do you all spy on each other report to higher relgious authority?

[PyariCgudia]

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Are we seriously arguing over some chic who wears a skirt so that she can play the sport she plays well?

If you dont think women should be wearing skirts, then don't look. Don't watch women's tennis - period.

Sure the fatwa has been passed on her, but was there a fatwa passed on men who watched women's sports?

[funny_jammies]

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@PyariCgudia

Are we seriously arguing over some chic who wears a skirt so that she can play the sport she plays well?

If you dont think women should be wearing skirts, then don’t look. Don’t watch women’s tennis - period.

Sure the fatwa has been passed on her, but was there a fatwa passed on men who watched women’s sports?

bingo…come on guys…you said I can’t say this because I’m a Hindu…so now a muslim is asking you…go ahead and answer you chauvinists

[suroor_ca02]

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actually this mullani in our paros has declared a fatwa on such men. n since it was among women, i am sure it will become very public soon.

[Sadiyah]

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I think we all need to relax a little.

First of all, I don't think the Muslim scholar should've gone to the media and hand out a fatwa over it. Yes, her dress does not meet the requirements set by Islam, but he could've just approached her in person and explained it to her. At the end, we will all be answerable to Allah (SWT) for our deeds.

As for those getting upset as to why he commented, in Islam we have been told to help each other out in that which is good and try to stop each other from that which is wrong. Since her dresscode does not adhere to the Islamic laws, there is no harm in someone approaching her and politely explaining it to her.

As for men watching inappropriate stuff or women dressed up inappropriately, there are already fatawa on it.

Please keep it cool and discuss the topic on hand maturely, otherwise I would be compelled to lock this thread as it was derailed earlier and required a serious clean up.

[Sheraz_CT]

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@rvikz

how everyone knows what every muslim do it private life do you all spy on each other report to higher relgious authority?

i am not sure if i understood u correctly..but is she playing tennis in her private backyard?

[rvikz]

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@Sheraz CT

i am not sure if i understood u correctly..but is she playing tennis in her private backyard?

she is not questining about who is the last prophet she is just playing tennis.

[Lahore_981]

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@Sadiyah

I think we all need to relax a little.

First of all, I don’t think the Muslim scholar should’ve gone to the media and hand out a fatwa over it. Yes, her dress does not meet the requirements set by Islam, but he could’ve just approached her in person and explained it to her. At the end, we will all be answerable to Allah (SWT) for our deeds.

As for those getting upset as to why he commented, in Islam we have been told to help each other out in that which is good and try to stop each other from that which is wrong. Since her dresscode does not adhere to the Islamic laws, there is no harm in someone approaching her and politely explaining it to her.

Right said. She is playing, fine , she should. Rather all women should take part in sports. But it does not mean that the dress codes are to be violated. It is here that we Muslims fail to understand the progressive and democartic nature of Islam.

**Amr bil maaroof wa nahee anil munkir **what is necessary for all of us, and we should all do that… Without which we are “a part of the evil”…

Women should take part in sports, I am a supporter of this but not that it be used as an excuse to break the code of decent clothing… If we interpret this ruling of so called Fatwa in a little opn way, yes, if she wears a little reasonable dress and then becomes a champion, this would be a stronger example to promote the true and decent nature of Islam. Taking part in sports doesn’t mean one has to wear short skits and tight incomplete shirts without which one cannot play.

Giving a Fatwa about the dress doesn’t mean it is a Fatwa against the freedom of women… If nobody will stress on these things, soon there will be no difference remaining between Muslims and Non-Muslims… and everybody will be walking naked in streets…

[funny_jammies]

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@Lahore 981

Giving a Fatwa about the dress doesn’t mean it is a Fatwa against the freedom of women…

but it is. And it is gender discriminatory as well because not too many seem bothered about men wearing shorts or shaving

[Lahore_981]

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@funny jammies

bingo…come on guys…you said I can’t say this because I’m a Hindu…so now a muslim is asking you…go ahead and answer you chauvinists

I am not sure if you are a Hindu or what, but just to redirect you WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ANY MEMBER HERE,

There is a difference between someone who is Muslim by name and one who is a true Muslim by name and actions. Having said that, this is not the right way of judging Islam through the action of its followers, but by its real teachings. Poeple might be following something that is not Islam… Secondly, a Hindu can say the right thing too. I am open to anything said right by anyone.

[Lahore_981]

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@funny jammies

but it is. And it is gender discriminatory as well because not too many seem bothered about men wearing shorts or shaving

Hum, I disagree. This is not discrimination. We are no one to object to the boundaries set by Islam regarding the dress code of men and women.

If you look at the legs of a man, and a woman, there will be different impacts. Right? You will not be attracted by the naked legs of a man (Unless you are a gay) but a woman. People will not follow a woman dressed decently but the one who is wearing incomplete dress. … Now if a woman is wearing a short or a short skirt in front of hundreds of men, she will become the center of wandering eyes and secondly she will promote the same behavior in other women too. Men will be runnig after women randomly. This is how the society deteriorates

It is not discrimination. This issue deals with the society. It is not limited to the individual… Please read my FULL post # 70 before making any conclusion. The post below explains it nicely.

@Maymunah

Assalamualakum,
It is haram for her to put herself before nonmahram men and outifts like this, so therefore what she is doing is haram.
Allah says:

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******“O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed…” (Qur’an 33:59) **

****"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands…" (Qur’an 24:30-31)

Did Allah not say:
He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah. [An-Nisaa 4:80]

So therefore:

“Ayesha (r) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (r) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: **'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands.” (Abu Dawood) **

If Muslim women want to play sports together there is nothing wrong with that… but dressing like she is in front of others is haram. Plus this is not a manner for her to be seen infront of nonmahram.

And Allah knows best!

[funny_jammies]

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^ did you consider the contingency of women ogling at men?

[Lahore_981]

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@funny jammies

^ did you consider the contingency of women ogling at men?

1. Read and consider my replies, it may help you understand my point of view.
2. Stick to the situation in this post, don’t revert it to an ambiguous and unrelated situation.

[syedpk]

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@funny jammies

^ did you consider the contingency of women ogling at men?

guys dont mind funny jammies he is mentally defficient he discussed almost the same topic and when he got almost all the answers from that forum he comes here with some questions.dont mind these guys just want to make an arguement in the sake of argument.May god guide us all.the forum is

GupShup > GupShup > General
Muslims clerics incensed by Sania Mirza’s Clothing

you people can see yourself and realise they can just talk rubbish nothing substantial

[funny_jammies]

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Lahore, you want to deal with men ogling women but for some reason wouldn't consider the vice versa. I read and re-read your #70, 72 & 73 but none of that deal with that either. That's why I call it discriminatory - why should anyone assume that women should cover up because men may ogle at their legs but not the reverse?

I really didn't mean to irritate you, considering how well you have articulated the rest of the stuff in your #70

[PyariCgudia]

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If she was to play in a pant-type garment, it would put her at a disadvantage to her opponents. You'd have to re-invent the sport so that either

1. only muslims are playing each other - which means muslim women will never get covered in media, since no one except muslim ladies will be watching the sport (sorry, muslim men can't watch, its haraaaaaam)

or

1. You overhaul the entire sport internationally, make ALL females wear pants, so then this girl can play her sport.

Now, fatwas are all great - but these two options are what it would translate to in reality.

Hence why I say, fatwas are fine and all, but they're not practical. Someone just says something, and then things continue on as they were. I would say its a great deal of hot air in reality, but that'll just piss pple off even further.

[funny_jammies]

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@PyariCgudia

Hence why I say, fatwas are fine and all, but they’re not practical. Someone just says something, and then things continue on as they were. I would say its a great deal of hot air in reality, but that’ll just piss pple off even further.

and that certainly the arguement. such fatwas ought to be called fartwas considering the hot air

[devil123]

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i didn't knew that mullahs watch tennis.... that too woman's singles ...
i declare a fatwa against the mullah..