A fantasy of freedom

Re: A fantasy of freedom

'You can't live with US and you can't live without US"

Make that 'you can live with US, but without its screwed up policies.'

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I am an American and I dont think we have double standards. Your post is yet one more gripe towards America.
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And pray tell, my gripes are totally unfounded? or that i go around looking for gripes just for the sake of it? I really dont think so. If amercia wants to go ahead and screw or liberate other countries, dont pretend your some sort of saviour whilst you go on about it. That is just plain sick. Thats what the article says, and that is what my gripe is about.

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Let me help you with a hypothetical question: If US were to dis-engage from the mid-east tomorrow (bring back every soldier, equipment etc). I can bet my pedigreed camel that you will still post a gripe, that look now US left with the mess. Same applies everywhere in the world.
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Heh, you put forward a question, and then answer it yourself. Your basing your judgement on an assumption and that is dangerous. To answer your question, if america up and left in iraq, I'd be happy for the iraqis. And if things went sour, why would i be complaining about America, when shes not involved anymore (wether they remain uninvolved remains to be seen)?

My complaint would be with the Iraqis/faction that messed up. Nevertheless, Iraq isnt even a gripe at present, things are moving forward, WMD and the indicriminate killings were definately a big problem and will always will be. They were based merely on lies, lies and more lies.

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US has made mistakes, but they dont have double standards. I was of the same opinion before I read up on For-Policy, however now I understand that options are limited when dealing with Muslim world. If US wants to deal with Moderate Muslim Governments there is no double standard in it. It's a matter of preference which hard core islamist cant comprehend.
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I didnt know saudi were moderates. Isnt that where bin laden appeared from?

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Same thing applies with US, if the countries take AID from US then they have to conform to how it is administred by US standards (I mean I not talking $20 here We are talking $2 billion per begger country). If the country or its constituents don't want the aid and wnat to do things they deem fit, more power to them , just dont hold the hat next time around.

It is also called or is another form of Na-shukray (thanklessness) which the world is full of.
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Aid from the developed countries arent what they seem. They come with alot of self vested conditions, bribery, and more often than not, are loans with interest more than anything else. They often make the rich richer and the poor alot poorer. I could point alot more things to you if you want, but have a feeling your familiar with it already.