A Comprehensive Look into The Hijaab & Surah An-Nur (in regards to hijab) (merged)

[Crescent]

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On the first post, I found her comment to be very very very disturbing and I had to comment on it. Again,** she had no right to say something so irresponsible and immature** and I am not sorry for what I said in my first response.

Yeah, we get alot of those here

I have no issue with her later paragraphs and I even agreed with them; Islam does hold women in higher standard. However, advocating that women get raped because of the way they dress** is no way to implement the justice and prestige** promised to us by our religion.

1. Girls wearing revealing clothing, do not have to get raped forcefully. Stop implying stuff.
2. Your religion promises you alot of stuff. Study all of it.

My second post, yes i was being sarcastic, and I should have edited it before you read it which i already did anyway

I don’t take back what I said about it.

Third post, I had to add more because I see so many idiotic comments on this board about rape and justice and victims rights (or lack thereof).

I’m sure this is not the thread where that belongs.

[Barbie_Girl]

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I really appercite your effort cressi.....but i really wanna know about the nature of men

hey cressi what about those lil kids(4_5years of age) who get raped by some Hafiz-e Quran....(i am referring to that Mariyum case)......kya wo bhi attract karti hain admiyon ko....i think we shoudl kill women in the world....right

[Sara516]

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Barbie, i bet those girls were dressed like Xmas trees, so they dont desrve any sympathy for getting raped. :)

[Crescent]

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@Barbie_Girl

I really appercite your effort cressi…but i really wanna know about the nature of men

hey cressi what about those lil kids(4_5years of age) who get raped by some Hafiz-e Quran…(i am referring to that Mariyum case)…kya wo bhi attract karti hain admiyon ko…i think we shoudl kill women in the world…right

1. Iam not familiar with the case.
2. Its obvious they do not attract.
3. Rapists do have their own mindset.
4. Rape can occur anyplace, mostly happens at home.
5. To be covered from a potential rapist, and to reveal and provoke a potential rapist is where my argument lies. Not in whether rape is wrong or right.
6. No one mentioned killing of women.
7. This thread is about hijaab. Rape experts please proceed to a new thread.

Salamalikum.

[Crescent]

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@Sara516

Barbie, i bet those girls were dressed like Xmas trees, so they dont desrve any sympathy for getting raped.

Now I will not let this get away. Sorry.

Astagfrullah! shame on you for betting on those girls first of all. Secondly, You obviously have not been or known a rape victimg, so you can’t say they did it cuz they were xmas trees. How low can you go sara? Your thinking is so degraded.

Don’t talk about rape when you don’t feel symphathetic for them. Sara, don’t make fun of those rape victims.
You’re so evil.

[Barbie_Girl]

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oh reallly...hijab is related to all that provoking thing right......? if you cant answer our questions then why do you start these threads.......and duhhhhhhhhhh you are still blaming girls....oh myyy........she was just a lil kid....4 years old.....innocent poor girl......you men....

[Sara516]

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Crescent, shut up. Take this up with Angel, she started it.

[Crescent]

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@Barbie_Girl

oh reallly…hijab is related to all that provoking thing right…? if you cant answer our questions then why do you start these threads…and duhhhhhhhhhh you are still blaming girls…oh myyy…she was just a lil kid…4 years old…innocent poor girl…you men…

Barbie, I don’t get where you’re coming from? You’re getting upset at something else. It’s emotional, but please elaborate.

@Sara516

Crescent, shut up. Take this up with Angel, she started it.

1. She did not mean that, and she’ll admit it too. She can swallow words, but someone apparently cant!!!

2. You disregarded her entire post AGAIN!

3. SHE HAD A DISCLAIMER AT THE BOTTOM IF YOU DIDN"T READ.

4. Were you not being sarcastic too? I gave you a warning before.

Don’t get all firey. People say thats hypocritical.

[Sara516]

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I was being sarcastic :)

[Crescent]

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@Sara516

I was being sarcastic

Getting back to hijaab…

If someone disagrees. Please do post your Quranic/Sunnah references that are against it.

JazakAllah.

[Sara516]

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I do not disagree with hijab, I have no problems with it. But again, no hijab does not give anyone the right to rape or be raped, and i will keep saying this until you people get it. :)

[Crescent]

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@Sara516

I do not disagree with hijab, I have no problems with it. But again, no hijab does not give anyone the right to rape or be raped, and i will keep saying this until you people get it.

People already got it much before you started saying it. You can keep saying it all you want… But I’m just telling you its totally futile…{trying to help u..}

So then if you have no problems

[ImranQ]

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@Ur Angel

Originally Posted by Ur Angel
No need for the sympathy cz its just NOT NEEDED. Theirs is nothing to be ashamed off. It is a womens fault if a man is lustin after her. **If ur gonna get out the house looking like a christmas tree, and with the walk similiar to the one at a strip show and u luk as if uv just decended from the 7th heaven astaghfirullah then yes it is ur fault. If a women gets raped by a man in this circumstance then i do not blame the man i’ll blame the women.

Thats horrible!!!

its just like “u are going to get robbed if u are rich, n the fault lies with u coz u are rich”

u seriously need to revise your views :halo:
**

[Scratch]

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Hard to believe some of the views presented here by the mullah brigade! The lengths self-righteous people are willing to go to prove their point is amazing in itself.

Plus what is this fascination of Islam and Islamic men with women?

[Ur_Angel]

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@ImranQ

Thats horrible!!!

its just like “u are going to get robbed if u are rich, n the fault lies with u coz u are rich”

u seriously need to revise your views :halo:
**

Nope i do not need to revise them.
These are my views in confederation with the rules of shariyah. And i am perfectly happy with them ppl in disagreement need to revise their views on religion.

Yes and if u are rich u have a bodyguard with u… U must see that with rich ppl.
Same way the guard of a women is covering herself, dressing in a modest way!

[ImranQ]

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^ rudiculous!!!!!!

if i commit a sin its between me n allah (or the rulers) one one else has the right to disgrace me...

secondly, cheating a cheater doesn't make us less cheater.. is still a cheating

open up your mind lady

[S02]

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@Crescent_

WHERE IS THE DEBATE ?
I SEE ALOT OF UNDERSTANDING, NO DEBATE.
I CANNOT KEEP ANALYSING THESE READINGS FOR YOU, IF YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND ONCE, THEN I WON’T POST AGAIN. READ.

I am not asking you to interpret anything for me, thank you. I can read and I don’t need to rely on your narrow and passive understanding of religion. I was attempting to have a discussion and to learn from the actual hadith and Quranic verses.

But I object to the really cruel and merciless statements that people make when other people do not live up to their standards. The Quran or in the Hadith do not allow for you justifying rape in any way shape or form.You want us to stop discussing something that came out of your and Ur Angel’s own replies perhaps because you realize how ludicrous, cruel, and offensive they truly are. But it is a related topic.

And the inhumanity of your statements is appalling and certainly unIslamic.

[S02]

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@Crescent_

I'll tell you that, when you tell me how its outside the bounds (Don't bother posting if you're not going to give reference). And here is how Ur Angel best puts it: 

• He is not a mahram i agree, but he’s within his bounds and if he is not then he is aware of his lord watching.
  ***How about you leave my intentions to God? ** : )

Why don’t you do the same?

[parissenoor]

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@ImranQ

Thats horrible!!!

its just like “u are going to get robbed if u are rich, n the fault lies with u coz u are rich”

u seriously need to revise your views :halo:
**

good point ImranQ

[Munni]

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I grew up in America and I can say with certainty that women in this society are seen as objects. Every which way. I cant believe people will say women are not seen as objects here. You have to be kidding me.