‘Brahmins oppressing all communities in India’

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‘Brahmins oppressing all communities in India’
Staff Report

LAHORE: All communities in India including Dalits (untouchables), Muslims and Christians face oppression by Brahmins, Indian journalist VT Rajshekar said while delivering a lecture at the Punjab University (PU) on Sunday. …

Rajshekar said that the people of India were still suffering from the caste system and Brahmins had monopoly on the economy and the media in India. He said that Brahmans constituted only three percent of the population. He said that the social conditions in Pakistan were better than in India.

“Most of the Indian cities are big slums. The India government has issued false statistics about its progress,” he added. …

He said that the people of India loved Dr Ambedkar, who had struggled for the rights of the untouchable, more than Gandhi. “There are more statues of Ambedkar in India than Gandhi,” he added. He said that Muhammad Ali Jinnah had left the All India Congress after realising that Brahmins dominated its policies. …

Daily Times

Now, this is a Hindustani who lives in reality.

He seems to paint a different picture of Hindustan than the Hindustanis here. I wonder why is that?

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who is this guy??

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Hindustani journalist VT Rajshekar.

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This seems like typical dalit propoganda:)

Brahmins do not control india anymore, tonnes of them are toilet-cleaners and do measely jobs, my dad told me.
** Must read**: Who are the real Dalits of India?
Most of the facts in the dailypak articles are incorrect and inconsistent with any international stats you would find.

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^ Is the documentary by National Geographic Magzine on the fate of Dalits also a propoganda

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Daits are definitely very oppressed. They are one of the poorest groups in India. All I'm saying is that the level of discrimination against them has considerably dropped. The Indian Government offers high quotas to them. But still, a lot of work needs to be done. Their financial situation might have improved but still theri social situation needs a lot of work. They dont get enough respect from other parts of the society. But also, it is not that Brahmins are controlling everything and being too harsh on Dalits. Those times were a few centuries ago. Today, the Brahmins aren't doing too good either. Please read the link I provided before. I am not biased towards any group :D

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So why call this Dalit propaganda?

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bcoz the propoganda exaggerates it 2 much + it is always pointing fingures at Brahmins when its the collective fault of society + its giving incorrect facts about Brahmins controlling everything

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Its always that the rich and powerful opress the poor.
Mayawati is a dalit leader and few opresses the dalits more than her. I have seen policemen who are dalits (or not) and they opress all the rickshawwallas and paanwaalas, who might be dalits or not. I never see them asking about their caste.
Power can coruupt most people.

No commets about Rajshekhar (the author), as I haven't heard the whole truth, what he said before and after saying what is wrtten here.

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Pakistani Dragongive up the habbit of looking for anything against India. Today more than half of ministers all over India are from low casts and plenty of them are Christians and Muslims.

May be you want to say that Dalit, Christian and Muslim ministers exploite the dalits alongwith Brahmins?

The story about the man who opposed the cartoons & opposed the ban
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The reason he paints a different picture is because he is a well known radical. He is part of an organization that is known to spew racist comments very often! He probably lives as far from reality as anyone else who thinks that brahmins control the government or oppress dalits. The dalits were oppressed severely, but this was pre-independance! This Rajashekar character is known to be anti-hindu and anti-brahman and to think that he lives in reality is simply downright foolish! No wonder his writings dont come up anywhere in the mainstream media!

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Rajashekhar is also an anti-national. He is funded by many groups outside India to forment trouble. He is obsessed by Brahmin hate.

Dalits are truly oppressed, but there is a very big problem with them. They have no role models.

Any individual or community should realise the importance of hardwork and also plan their lives better. The problem with Dalits is that they work very hard and at the end of the day they spend it on alcohol and gambling. This affects the next generation as they are unable to send their children to school. The children grow up watching their drunkard dad who also abuses his wife and you can imagine the effect they have on the child.

Brahmins are generally very poor (even poorer than the dalits), but what set them apart is the culture and discipline. After Independence, many brahmins were on the streets, but they have a very disciplined life style. Alcohol, Gambling and other social evils are a big taboo. All the earnings of a Brahmin are spent on educating his children. You will be amazed to see a traditional Brahmin's life style which typically starts at 4:30 AM in the morning and ends at 9:00 PM in the night. Because of their hardwork and education they naturally do good in studies and dominate the society. The kids of these Brahmins grow up looking at their father in religious prayer, working hard for a living and investing time and money in the growth and development of the family.

Hence you find that even after 60 years of reservations (Affirmative action) dalits are still struggling and conversely after 60 years of state oppression Brahmins are florishing.

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^^ Good post. I agree with most of it.

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this VT rajshekar is a moron.

To quote him, “The First World War, the Second World War, the establishment of Communism, the rise of Hitler, were also systematically planned and executed by Zionists.” With his sex scandal, Bill Clinton was the “victim of a Zionist conspiracy”, for the Zionists, who “control the entire American politics, economy and the media as well”, are “angry that Clinton refused to finish the ‘demon’ of Islam and render all-out support to Israel

pakistanidragon if u want then u can take him in ur country. we dont want such people.

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Victory...
Isnt Dalit apathy linked to the fact that they are at the bottom rung of society and believe that even with an education opportunities do not exist for them due to discrimination...its not a justification but it is a reason...you could say the same for blacks in Brazil...they should leave their favelas and get an education and work hard but the fact is no-ones gonna give a black guy a job in Brazil so you resort to other means...Case for any poor socio-economic group in a society...

Just a question about Dalits and perceptions regarding them...This sint meant as an attack in any way...its a genuine question...arent Dalits seemed as deserving if their oppression because due to a Hindu belief in reincarnation they must have been bad in a previous life...Cos i remember a Buddhist guy sharing the same sentiment when speaking about disabled people...isnt disadvantage in rural communities sean as ascribed due to a previous life therefore there is no moving up?...

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In present time...I can see Brahmins are equally oppressed as Dalits......Go and visit any North Indian village and you will come across number of Brahmins living below poverty line...

Add to that, the middle class Brahmins have to face the wrath of government and pathetic descriminatory policy of reservation based on caste....

Brahmins cannot get admission for their children in higher education institutions funded by government because of limited seats available for Open category........these are the people who are economically struggling same as any other citizen of India belonging to some "reserved" caste defined by government.

These Brahmins of present day are paying the cost of descrimination which their forefathers did.......the benefit of reservation is mainly exploited by middle and upper class people of India who have some certificate approving that they belong to "lower caste"....such is the condition...

Those who say that in India 'caste' exists based on birth are really NOT aware of present day India in practical terms....caste has just getting limited to "surname" of a petrson.

In next 50 years there will be only 3 "castes" in practical --- Upper Class and Lower Class and Middle Class based on the financial background of people....anyone including Brahmins will belong to any of these.

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Agree with everything except for the bold part:D . Sab ke sab kaminey hain yaar, aur brahman pucho mat aaj ke tarikh main to wo leaders hain in kamon ke liye well just joking dont throng on me:)

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It's today's date (not something from the last centuy) and it's printed in a private daily.

Maybe you shoud have a word with Hindu journalist who bravely reported this.

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Do I say that the report is a fake? I say it is a clear non-sense. That is my opinion.

And can you deny that more than half of the ministers and members of Parliament and different assemblies in India come from Dalits, Christians and Muslims communities?

And in that case you must agree that Dalit, Christian and Muslim ministers and politicians are exploiting dalits along with Brahmins?

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I beg to differ here. The situation of dalits is much different from that of Blacks. The caste system however hated ensured that every individual had jobs on their hands. For eg., a Brahmin used to be relegated to priestly duties, the Kshtriays to army and Vysya to business and sudras were the engineers, architects, barbers, farmers etc.

Though there was a hierarchy, there was a responsible position in society for everyone. Things went bad when the Sudras were denied educational opportunity and those privileges were restricted to the other castes. This laid for the foundation of continuous exploitation of the Dalits.

Today there are 5 million dalits in government positions and all the dalits have to do is just appear for an exam / interview and they will land up in a job. Unfortunately it is the better off dalits who continue to grab the benefits generation after generation and do not allow the other deserving people to get a chance. So today it has turned out that the developed dalits (neobuddhist dalits, christian dalits) have usurped all the benefits meant for underprivileged dalits.

Many dalits feel bitter when reminded of history. But that is the case with most people. You remind a muslim about his history and how they are today, he feels bitter about today. You ask a Hindu about his history, he has bitterness towards the mughals and the christians. These feelings are natural as they are based on a perception not necessarily based on reality, but based on the recent brain wash they had in their school, college or locality.

Finally, every civilisation or society has exploited people in some or the other form. Whether it is the british / spanish / portuguese with the black and brown slaves or the arab with their slaves or the Indians with their caste system. Countries develop and progress based on how they look into themselves and fix their problems providing a just and equitable society for its people.

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