911 trial begins

Finally after more than 10 years of the attacks, it seems that Americans are now moving towards the trial of the ‘masterminds’ of 911 which killed more than 2600 people. The trial of five people will be carried out whose details are as follows:

Ramzi Binalshibh arrested in September 2002, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad arrested in March 1 2003, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi March 2003, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali March 2003 and Waleed bin Attash April 2003.

What has taken Americans so long to carry out the judicial proceedings against these people? The case has not been carried out yet and they decided for themselves and served justice to two countries (Afghanistan and Pakistan) in the meanwhile.

US Says Sept. 11 Trial To Resume At Guantanamo | Fox News

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico – The U.S. military says it’s ready to resume the trial of five Guantanamo Bay prisoners charged with planning and aiding the Sept. 11 attacks.

A Pentagon legal official has signed off on trying them together at the U.S. base in Cuba. That means the military has 30 days from Wednesday to arraign the prisoners on charges that include terrorism and murder. They could get the death penalty if convicted.

Defense lawyers were hoping two men would be tried separately on non-capital charges, arguing the pair are accused of relatively minor roles.

President Barack Obama halted the previous trial and wanted them prosecuted in civilian court. Congress opposed the move and the administration was forced to shift it back to Guantanamo.

Read more: US Says Sept. 11 Trial To Resume At Guantanamo | Fox News

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Five face 9/11 trial at Guantánamo - Bee Nation/World News - The Sacramento Bee

Five face 9/11 trial at Guantánamo

By [Carol Rosenberg](http://www.sacbee.com/search_results/?sf_pubsys_story_byline=Carol Rosenberg&link_location=top)

Miami Herald
Published: Thursday, Apr. 5, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 6A

MIAMI – The Pentagon on Wednesday cleared the way for a death penalty trial against five Guantánamo Bay captives charged with engineering the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Retired Navy Vice Adm. Bruce MacDonald, who’s in charge of military commissions, signed off on the capital trial against alleged mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, 46, and four accused co-conspirators.

The men face charges of terrorism, hijacking aircraft, conspiracy and murder in violation of the law of war, among other charges, in the system set up by President George W. Bush within months of the attack, and then modified by President Barack Obama in 2009.

If convicted, they could be sentenced to death.

The charges accuse the five of organizing the attacks – including funding and training the 19 men who hijacked four commercial airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, and crashed them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Shanksville, Pa., killing 2,976 people.

The lead trial attorneys are retired Army Col. Robert Swann and federal prosecutor Edward Ryan– the same two men designated by the Bush administration to prosecute the case.

Obama halted the previous trial and Attorney General Eric Holder was initially determined to prosecute the five in Manhattan, not far from the site of the World Trade Center. But Holder reversed course a year ago after members of Congress raised a variety of protests – arguing that a federal prosecution would put an even larger al Qaida bull’s-eye on New York, would snarl traffic or would risk acquittal if a civilian judge or jury concluded that the evidence against them was obtained through torture.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the decision to go forward with the trial at Guantánamo didn’t diminish Obama’s desire to close the detention center there.

“There have obviously been obstacles in achieving that. But he remains committed to doing that,” said Carney. “In the meantime, we have to ensure that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others who are accused of these heinous crimes are brought to justice.”

The decision drew a rebuke from the American Civil Liberties Union, which has funded some of the 9/11 defense lawyers.

The Obama administration “is making a terrible mistake by prosecuting the most important terrorism trials of our time in a second-tier system of justice,” said Anthony Romero, the group’s executive director.

He said the war court was “set up to achieve easy convictions and hide the reality of torture, not to provide a fair trial.”

All five were interrogated by the CIA in secret overseas prisons – Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times, according to declassified CIA documents – before their 2006 transfer to Guantánamo. Once in Cuba, he bragged to a panel of U.S. military officers that he was responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks “from A to Z.”

The chief prosecutor, Army Brig. Gen. Mark Martins, has said that by law no evidence derived through torture can be used at a Guantánamo trial.

The other four men facing the death penalty charges in the joint trial are Waleed bin Attash, 33, a Yemeni; Ramzi Binalshibh, 39, a Yemeni; Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, 43, a Saudi; and Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, 34, a Pakistani.

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It's a military trial meaning it is already fixed more like a kangaroo court its a comedy not a trial or court case in any sense.

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the thing is why has it taken them more than 9 years to begin this trial? They have not conducted any trial on the 'supposed culprits' so far and have destroyed two countries in the mean while.

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should they abandon the process ? why ?

normally criminal trials take years in india and pakistan , mumbai trials are still undergoing ,fter high court it will go to supreme court.

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Lol, here we are not talking about ordinary prisoners, we are talking about criminals who launched a war against the Americans.

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AM - Self-proclaimed 9/11 masterminds to face military trial 05/04/2012

TONY EASTLEY: The self-proclaimed mastermind of the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and four other co-accused will now be formally tried by an American military court.

If the five suspected Al Qaeda militants are found guilty they could face the death penalty.

Jane Cowan is our North America correspondent.

Jane, good morning. This has been a very long time coming.

JANE COWAN: That’s right. It’s the culmination of a long legal and political battle over where to prosecute the accused mastermind of the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and four of his co-accused Al Qaeda militants.

Barack Obama remember came to power promising to close Guantanamo Bay. And the Obama administration, Tony, had wanted to try the men in a civilian court in New York City, just steps from Ground Zero. But Republicans in Congress stymied that plan by blocking the transfer of the prisoners to US soil.

This group was originally charged during the Bush administration. They were recharged once the military tribunal system was revised by the Obama administration. And now with them being formally sent to trial it sets the stage for the case to finally be heard.

TONY EASTLEY: So whereabouts, in what building, will the trial be held and what has been the reaction to the events?

**JANE COWAN: Well this will now all happen in the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay Cuba.

As far as the reaction is concerned human rights groups have always slammed the Guantanamo Bay tribunals as tainted and they have renewed their opposition to them today, saying that this decision is essentially relegating the most important terrorism trials of our time to what they are calling a second tier system of justice. **

The White House press secretary Jay Carney was pressed on how the president can on the one hand say he is committed to shutting down Guantanamo Bay and on the other still go ahead with this trial there.

Let’s have a listen to what Jay Carney said.

**JAY CARNEY: The fact of the matter is, in part because of the system that was put in place and the situation that existed under the prior administration, we have now, 11 years almost have passed since 9/11 or 10 and a half, and it is important to see that justice is done.
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The president’s commitment to closing Guantanamo is as firm as ever. He agrees with our uniformed military leadership, he agrees with John McCain and George W Bush that it ought to be closed. We’ll work to see that done.

Unfortunately as you know we’ve had, we’ve encountered obstacles in getting that done from Congress but he will continue to work to do that.

TONY EASTLEY: Jay Carney speaking there in Washington. Our correspondent Jane Cowan is also in the capital. Jane, what happens now?

**JANE COWAN: Well the men are now due to appear in court within 30 days at the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay. They are expected then to be asked to enter a plea. They are expected to be tried together in a joint process. And the death penalty the Pentagon has confirmed will be on the table.
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**The other issue is remember Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was one of the detainees who was subjected to the harsh interrogation technique of simulated drowning known as water boarding that’s been condemned as torture and which has raised doubts about whether his statements to interrogators would hold up in court. **

**So all of those questions will no doubt be back in the spotlight all over again.
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TONY EASTLEY: North America correspondent Jane Cowan in Washington.

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Before getting your lungi on fire, read the comments, the question is why the trial is beginning so late.

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[quote="Ali_Syed"]

the thing is why has it taken them more than 9 years to begin this trial? QUOTE]

Kyun ke... time chahiye evidence ko fabricate karne ke liye aur zayada masala lagane ke liye! ;)

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‘No, no!’ said the Queen. ‘Sentence first — verdict afterwards.’

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***Jab Chaho Banao Hamain Mujahideen

Pary Zaroorat to Kaho Hum to Dehshat-Gard******

Khird ka naam junoon padh gaya, junoon ka khird

Jo chahe aapka husn-e-karishma saaz kare



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The prosecution needs time for trials of this magnitude. The collection of evidence alone can be painstakingly slow. You may recall that the process was halted due to a disagreement between President Obama and the US Congress over whether to close down Guantánamo and move the trials to the mainland. The crimes of these people are not hidden. They are getting a chance to prove their innocence. What chance did the innocent victims of 9/11 get?

There is a legal system of military justice that oversees these military tribunals and every accused gets his/her chance to prove themselves innocent of the alleged crimes. These four accused will also get that chance. Should we not refrain from passing our judgments on these courts even before they start their work?

Maj David Nevers
DET-United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil/ur

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I thought President Bush knew exactly 2 days after 9/11 who the perpetrators were and hence two countries were invaded and destroyed.

No body is questioning the legal system. People are questioning the invasion of foreign countries without 'collection of evidence' sort of exercise. Any chance for the innocent Iraqis or Afghans? Oh, wait. They are 'collateral damage', not human beings.

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the trial will be starting today finally

Self-proclaimed 9/11 mastermind, co-accused due in court | DAWN.COM

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Maj Nevers,

Some sites describe the 9-11 was an act of some kind of mega ritual like those were practiced in ancient era where human sacrifice is required. If you wish to answer than please otherwise just leave it.

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Centcom you can not collect evidence in ten years to try terrorist in your country and you attacked a nation in one month obviously without evidence against them…:k:

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It never occurred to me that catching Osama is easier than collecting evidences:D

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Khalid Shaikh Mohammad among five 9/11 accused presented in court – The Express Tribune

****GUANTANAMO BAY: **After nearly four years, the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 plot Khalid Shaikh Mohammad has been brought before a judge again before a military commission hearing to be arraigned.

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Appearing alongside co-accused Ramzi bin al-Shibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, Ali Abd al Aziz Ali and Walid Bin Attash, Khalid Shaikh Mohammad refused to talk to the judge.

Khalid Shaikh Mohammad (KSM) appeared in court, clad in white, with his beard dyed red and a turban on his head. He has not been seen in the courtroom since 2008. From the outset, KSM and his lawyer made it apparent of their lack of faith in the commission. David Nevin, KSM’s lawyer, said that his client would not reply back to the judge since KSM was concerned about the fairness of the trial, the torture they had faced, and the treatment that they received when even as they were being brought to the courtroom. KSM took off his earphones, but appeared to be listening when other lawyers presented their arguments.

The defence lawyers added that they were not even allowed by Guantanamo authorities to give their clients the clothing that they had requested.

One of the accused, Walid Bin Attash was brought to the courtroom in restraints. Judge Col. James Pohl, while addressing Attash’s lawyer, said that Attash has been brought in restraints because he refused to come to the court from his holding cell.

Attash’s lawyer Captain Michael Schwartz argued that his client was in pain, and asked for the restraints to be removed. Attash, like KSM, also refused to answer the judge when he was asked if he could hear him. However, the judge allowed for his restraints to be removed after his lawyer assured that his client would not misbehave during the court proceedings.

At approximately 10 AM Guantanamo time, as proceedings were underway, Ramzi Bin al Shibh began praying in court. Soon after, Ammar al Baluchi, KSM’s nephew, was also seen praying in the courtroom.

After the accused refused to respond to the judge, Chief Prosecutor Brigadier General Martins offered to bring in a translator who would do consecutive translations in Arabic, which was granted by the court.

However, KSM’s lawyer said he would refuse to speak to the court even after interpreters were brought in.

Court proceedings are underway.

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Both sides predict a long fight in Guantanamo Sept. 11 case | Fox News

**GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba – The U.S. has finally started the prosecution of five Guantanamo Bay prisoners charged in the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, but the trial won’t be starting anytime soon, and both sides said Sunday that the case could continue for years.
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**Defense lawyer James Connell said a tentative trial date of May 2013 is a “placeholder” until a true date can be set for the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the attacks, and his co-defendants.
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“It’s going to take time,” said the chief prosecutor, Army Brig. Gen. Mark Martins, who said he expects to battle a barrage of defense motions before the case goes to trial.

“I am getting ready for hundreds of motions because we want them to shoot everything they can shoot at us,” he said.

Saturday’s arraignment lasted 13 hours, including meal and prayer breaks, as the accused appeared to make a concerted effort to stall the initial hearing, which didn’t end until almost 11 p.m.

“Everyone is frustrated by the delay,” Martins said on Sunday. He noted that the civilian trial of convicted Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui took four years, and he pleaded guilty in 2006 before being sentenced to life in prison.

On Saturday, Mohammed and his co-defendants refused to respond to the judge or use the court’s translation system and one of the men demanded a lengthy reading of the charges. Connell called the tactics “peaceful resistance to an unjust system.”

The arraignment, Connell said, "demonstrates that this will be a long, hard-fought but peaceful struggle against secrecy, torture and the misguided institution of the military commissions."The defendants’ actions outraged relatives of the victims.

“They’re engaging in jihad in a courtroom,” said Debra Burlingame, whose brother, Charles, was the pilot of the plane that flew into the Pentagon. She watched the proceeding from Brooklyn on one of the closed-circuit video feeds around the United States.

A handful of those who lost family members in the attacks were selected by a lottery and flown to watch the proceedings at the U.S. naval base in Cuba, where Mohammed and his co-defendants put off their pleas until a later date.

They face 2,976 counts of murder and terrorism in the 2001 attacks that sent hijacked jetliners into New York’s World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The charges carry the death penalty.

The detainees’ lawyers spent hours questioning the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, about his qualifications to hear the case and suggested their clients were being mistreated at the hearing, in a strategy that could pave the way for future appeals. Mohammed was subjected to a strip search and “inflammatory and unnecessary” treatment before court, said his attorney, David Nevin.

It was the defendants’ first appearance in more than three years after stalled efforts to try them for the terror attacks.

The Obama administration renewed plans to try the men at Guantanamo Bay after a bid to try the men in New York City blocks from the trade center site hit political opposition. Officials adopted new rules with Congress that forbade testimony obtained through torture or cruel treatment, and they now say that defendants could be tried as fairly here as in a civilian court.

Nevin said it would be impossible to present testimony against his client that wasn’t corrupted by treatment that he says amounted torture. “It’s not possible to untaint the evidence any more than it is to unring a bell.”

Eddie Bracken of Staten Island, New York, was one of the victims’ relatives allowed to attend the hearing, and said it was important to him to see the people accused of killing his sister, Lucy Fishman, a Brooklyn mother of two who worked in the World Trade Center.

He said he came away impressed by the military justice system, with defense lawyers putting up an aggressive defense.

“If they had done this in another country it would have been a different story,” Bracken said Sunday. “But this is America.”

Human rights groups and defense lawyers say the secrecy of Guantanamo and the military tribunals will make it impossible for the defense. They argued the U.S. kept the case out of civilian court to prevent disclosure of the treatment of prisoners like Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced in 2009 that Mohammed and his co-defendants would be tried blocks from the site of the destroyed trade center in downtown Manhattan, but the plan was shelved after New York officials cited huge costs to secure the neighborhood and family opposition to trying the suspects in the U.S.

Congress then blocked the transfer of any prisoners from Guantanamo to the U.S., forcing the Obama administration to refile the charges under a reformed military commission system.

Mohammed, a Pakistani citizen who grew up in Kuwait and attended college in Greensboro, North Carolina, has admitted to military authorities that he was responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks “from A to Z,” as well as about 30 other plots, and that he personally killed Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Mohammed was captured in 2003 in Pakistan.

Ramzi Binalshibh was allegedly chosen to be a hijacker but couldn’t get a U.S. visa and ended up providing assistance such as finding flight schools. Walid bin Attash, also from Yemen, allegedly ran an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan and researched flight simulators and timetables. Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi is a Saudi accused of helping the hijackers with money, Western clothing, traveler’s checks and credit cards. Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, a Pakistani national and nephew of Mohammed, allegedly provided money to the hijackers.

During the failed first effort to prosecute the men at the base in Cuba, Mohammed mocked the tribunal and said he and his co-defendants would plead guilty and welcome execution. The lawyers’ statements indicate that plan has changed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/06/both-sides-predict-long-fight-in-guantanamo-sept-11-case/#ixzz1uAzCk6NA

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9/11 defense team says Guantanamo tribunal is unjust - latimes.com

**U.S. NAVAL BASE GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba — The defense team for **Khalid Shaikh Mohammed ****, now formally charged with capital murder in connection with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, on Sunday angrily called the military commission legal process a political “regime” set up to put him and his four accused collaborators to death.
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David Nevin, Mohammed’s civilian attorney, said new rules imposed under the Obama administration barred the lawyers from discussing with their clients whether they were mistreated by U.S. authorities and, in the case of Mohammed, tortured after their arrests eight years ago.

**“We are operating under a regime here,” Nevin said. "We are forbidden from talking to our clients about very important matters.
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**“And now the government wants to kill Mr. Mohammed. They want to extinguish the last eyewitness so he can never talk about his torture. They want the political cover so he’ll be convicted and executed.”
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According to CIA accounts and other documents, Mohammed was subjected to waterboarding 183 times at a classified CIA “black site” before he was moved to the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

On Saturday, he and four Sept. 11 codefendants were formally arraigned on conspiracy, terrorism and murder charges. They deferred entering pleas of guilt or innocence, with the government planning to ultimately seek five death sentences. The trial is tentatively set to begin in May 2013.

Army Brig. Gen. Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor, said Sunday that the public should remember Sept. 11, 2001, and what happened that morning when nearly 3,000 people died at New York’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon outside Washington and a field in western Pennsylvania.

“The enemy force was sophisticated, patient, disciplined and lethal,” he said.

But Martins also vigorously defended the military tribunal process, saying it was fair to both sides.

“However long the journey — and the arraignment was only the start of a legal process that could take many months — the United States is committed to gaining accountability for those who attacked and killed innocent people,” he said.

Martins said defense lawyers could talk to their clients but could not show them classified documents that disclosed harsh treatment. Otherwise, he said, “they can talk to their clients about anything.”

He added that even if there was some form of torture, it should not “pollute” the entire case.

“The remedy is not to just dismiss all the charges,” he said. “It does not mean that everybody goes free, that everybody is free of accountability just because somebody else did something wrong. That’s not good.”

Rather, he said, it is important for the case to proceed and the public to decide its fairness.

“This will be in the highest traditions of our country,” Martins said. “It’s important that people realize that this will be done methodically and patiently. Justice in every society is methodical, determined and patient.”

On the accusation that prosecutors are purposely seeking the death penalty, Martins said their goal was simply to submit the case to a jury of 12U.S. military service members.

“That’s what we want,” he said. "That’s justice, I believe. It will be a real jury, and we will trust this thing with them. These people will be impartial, and that’s what’s going to happen.

“This death penalty stuff is premature. We are trying to put this through the process.”

Martins also defended women on his prosecution team who he said were dressed appropriately at the arraignment Saturday. He was responding to complaints from Cheryl Bormann, a Chicago defense attorney for Walid bin Attash who wore a long black abaya to court.

On Sunday, she said her client was offended by women who did not dress in conservative Islamic attire, feeling that it caused him to sin. “It is distracting to him to see a woman who has anything bare other than her face,” she said.

She added that she had met with her client a dozen times and always dressed respectfully. “He is that conservative,” she said.

James Connell, civilian attorney for Ammar al Baluchi, also known as Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, noted that the five defendants coordinated a silent protest at the arraignment, refusing to answer the judge’s questions. Except for one short outburst, their behavior was sharply different from their last public hearing four years ago, when they shouted that they hoped their executions would win them martyrdom.

“The accused participated in peaceful resistance to an unjust system,” Connell said of their silent, defiant behavior Saturday. “These men have endured years of inhumane treatment and torture. This treatment has had serious long-term effects and will ultimately infect every aspect of this military commission tribunal.”

He said issues of torture and cruel treatment should be litigated before the case went forward. “These proceedings may turn out to be the only public examination of the torture years,” he said.

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