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I think the Minorities need to form their own militias to guard against these Talinazis.
Pakistan is without question one of the most dangerous country to be a non-muslim.
Perhaps only Somalia and Afghanistan come close in this regard.
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I think the Minorities need to form their own militias to guard against these Talinazis.
Pakistan is without question one of the most dangerous country to be a non-muslim.
Perhaps only Somalia and Afghanistan come close in this regard.
Aap shayed Pakistani nahin hain. Aapko nahin pata kitni militias hain minorities kay paas. Toronto I think doesn't get latest news?
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**On Sunday evening it was reported that a faction of the Pakistan Taliban had claimed responsibility for the attack. Various extremist groups have been blamed for previous attacks on Pakistan’s Christian community, which accounts for about 1.5 per cent of the population.
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The attack comes as Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is seeking to open the way for talks with the Pakistan Taliban as part of a broader peace deal. On Saturday, a former leader of the Afghan Taliban was released from Pakistani custody as part of attempt to help the peace process in Pakistan.
The major political parties all endorsed Mr Sharif’s call for negotiations earlier this month. But the Taliban has said the government must release militant prisoners and begin pulling troops out of the north-west tribal region that serves as its sanctuary before it will begin discussions.
Facing accusations that he is wrong to negotiate, Mr Sharif condemned Sunday’s attack, saying: “The terrorists have no religion and targeting innocent people is against the teachings of Islam and all religions.”
Suicide attack on Pakistani church kills 75, Taliban claims responsibility
A wing of the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the bombing in the city of Peshawar, saying it would continue to target non-Muslims until the United States stopped drone attacks in the country’s remote tribal region.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/22/us-pakistan-blast-idUSBRE98L02K20130922
Suicide bombers kill 78 Christians outside Pakistani church
“Such incidents are not conducive of peace talks,” Sharif said in televised remarks. “Unfortunately, because of this, the government is unable to move forward on what it had envisaged, on what it had wished for.”
The Taliban-linked militant group TTP Jundullah claimed responsibility within hours of the attack.
“They are the enemies of Islam, therefore we target them,” said the group’s spokesman, Ahmed Marwat. “We will continue our attacks on non-Muslims on Pakistani land.”
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I think the Minorities need to form their own militias to guard against these Talinazis.
Pakistan is without question one of the most dangerous country to be a non-muslim.
Perhaps only Somalia and Afghanistan come close in this regard.
That is not the solution. NS, IK and Army should sit together and get this very serious problem solved asap. It should be now top most priority of PM of Pakistan. No more peace talks. They should be wiped out from the geographical area of Pakistan. Really Pakistan doesn't need that kind of Islam. NA should immediate be called to make amendment in the constitution. Get the word Islam expunged from Pakistani constitution.
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I have loads to say on this but after my emotions stop running this high.
but having seen the reactions on social media today, I agree with PPP's Chandio statement on TV where he said and I quote: " These elections have resulted in four Pakistans rather than one unified one. Whoever rigged them, got their wish "
We are as polarised as never before.
He is telling the truth. kaash yeh baat registani parinday ki bhi samajh main aajaaiy, subha shaam apna waqt burbaad kar raha hay, Hilter aor us ke bhai ki shaan main qasiday parh kar.
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That is not the solution. NS, IK and Army should sit together and get this f-ing problem solved asap. No more peace talks. They should be wiped out from the geographical area of Pakistan. Really Pakistan doesn't need that kind of Islam. NA should immediate be called to make amendment in the constitution. Get the word Islam expunged from Pakistani constitution.
People should come out on the streets and demand military action against these animals. I am PTI supporter, but don't agree with their terror policy. These peace talk drama will only harm us more. Government, political parties, military, ISI, rangers and police should for their own sake work together on same side to eliminate this cancer. Easier said than done, but at least starts some where.
Its really sad and depressing!
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Pope calls Pakistan church attack act of hate, war - DAWN.COM
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Shouldn't the title be updated from the 15 people killed from the earlier news? Sometimes, the foot-in-the-mouth disease that Imran khan has (I am assuming he is naïve not complicit) like saying at the time of a bombing that who must it be when we are trying to have peace talks with the killers?
I do have to task. Is there a co-captain or err a vice-captain like miandad was to imran's success in the late eighties and early nineties leading to the 1992 world cup victory. It seems that imran can't think straight without a wise counsel.
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All the wise guys/gals also have their interests at stake, so sincerity is majorly lacking.
What a sad and horrible tragedy. May the souls of the deceased rest in peace.
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Mujhy abi tak koi phone nahin aya. Aapne kis ki baat maanli?
so you only will believe when you get phone call from them? do you also get phone calls from Blackwater?
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I know that the terrorists don’t care about the loss of innocent lives, but the general public is really fed up of violence (doesn’t matter who is targeted). Seems as if the terrorists have misfired once again.
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apart from political point of view........
minorities have always suffered in pak n will suffer as long as islamic extrimists are in majority...
this time taliban did it but all the other times the church thing in karachi n burning christians home in karachi n few months back in lahore joseph colony or wateva n not to forget that qadiani thing n killing them till date n then call it "wajb ul qatl", n ofcource dat mandir thing...
these are jus few examples... i dont wan to go in detail
this is happening since 1947.... whom to blame for all this? so called "sholars of islam" n "jhalat" ppl who follow mullah n their fatwa thing instead of reading their holy book this happens due to lack of knowledge n a lot of other things play a part in this too but main thing is this negative side of sholars n ppl who follow them........
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It was about time that the people reacted to the apparent apathy of PTI provincial government in KPK.
PTI tastes a rare spurt of anger amid cries of pain - DAWN.COM
PESHAWAR, Sept 22: The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf and its allies tasted public anger for the first time when aggrieved families of those killed in the Sunday’s twin suicide attacks on All Saints Church in Peshawar city sparked anger over the government’s apathy.
“Shame, shame, we don’t want your posters and slogans. Come and help us,” the Lady Reading Hospital crowded with families of the killed and injured in the attacks resonated with protest chants as one PTI MPA turned up to give a statement on media present on the spot instead of consoling the families of the victims.
**The yard outside the trauma centre resonated with cries of pain and anger as the aggrieved families did not let the MPA score points on media and speak. Mourners were chanting slogans against the provincial government and LRH management for not providing quick response to the traumatised wounded people.
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“The government instead of giving severe punishment to the culprits has been releasing militants and criminals from prisons,” remarked Father John William, who stated that not a single murderer was brought to justice.
**Umar Maseeh, another protester at LRH, accused PTI chairman Imran Khan of supporting the cause of militants. “Imran carried out his election campaign across the country, but he was never attacked, while we are unsafe even inside church, why?” he asked.
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**“It only shows Imran is a sympathiser of militants,” he alleged.
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**The bloody attack was a reality check for the coalition partners of PTI, including Qaumi Watan Party and Jamaat-i-Islami. The ministers and MPAs fearing backlash could not dare to visit the LRH for almost three hours after the incident to console the angry mourners and ensure timely treatment of the wounded. There were no arrangements at the official level to provide coffins. Thanks to Al Khidmat Foundation which arranged about 100 coffins for packing bodies.
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Of total 59 cabinet members, advisors, special assistants and parliamentary secretaries, only senior minister Sikandar Khan Sherpao and PTI provincial information secretary Ishtiaq Urmar, who is also parliamentary secretary, reached the LRH, but the angry protesters did not let them speak. Agitated Christians forced Sikandar Sherpao and Mr Urmar to leave the hospital’s premises immediately.
The absence of Information Minister Shah Farman often seen in an offensive demeanour on the floor of the assembly and press briefings, was conspicuous.
**Health Minister Shaukat Ali Yousafzai whose reckless statements frequently put the ruling coalition in hot waters was missing till the PTI chairman and chief minister turned up at the hospital where he just gave figures of the dead and injured in the attack.
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**Perhaps, it was the appearance of the former information minister Mian Iftikhar Hussain on media which might have spurred the PTI into action as Imran Khan came from Islamabad to the Peshawar hospital for damage control.
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**Imran, while talking to media, blamed his political rivals for inciting the aggrieved Christians against the provincial government. He condemned them for politicising the incident. However, he seemed willy-nilly in condemning the terrorists who had attacked the innocent worshippers at one of the oldest churches of the city.
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“The previous government has left the mess for us and now people are being provoked against us,” he told media without mentioning the Awami National Party.
Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar, on the directives of the President and prime minister, came too late (at around 8:00pm) with the message of the Punjab chief minister’s offer of medical help.
The agent of the federal government Engineer Shaukatullah, who did not come out from his palatial Governor’s House to console the religious minority brutally attacked by terrorists, was visible only when the interior minister was talking to media.
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PTI still in a fix to support the victims or the perpetrators of terror.
Like always there was a warning of this attack, what did the provincial government do to thwart the attack?
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Good decision. To hell with peace talks until the militants forego terrorism. Imran can keep on harping his peace mantra.
Condemnation: TTP dialogue plans come unstuck, says PM – The Express Tribune
ISLAMABAD:
**A visibly upset Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif announced on Sunday that his government could no longer move ahead with the all parties conference-endorsed plan for talks with the Taliban following Sunday’s twin bombings in a Peshawar church.
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**“Such incidents do not augur well for negotiations,” he told reporters in London ahead of his flight to New York, where he is scheduled to attend the 68th session of the United Nations General Assembly. “Unfortunately, because of this, the government is unable to move forward on what it had envisaged, on what it had wished for.”
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At the same time, he instructed the authorities concerned to devise a new security plan for the worship places of the country’s religious minorities.
**“We had proposed peace talks with the Taliban in good faith, and with the consent of all political parties… but unfortunately, because of this [attack] the government is unable to move forward on what it had envisaged, on what it had wished for,” he said.
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**Prime Minister Nawaz said those who carried out the gruesome attack had violated the tenets of Islam.
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**“Terrorists have no religion… targeting innocent people is against the teachings of Islam and all religions,” he said.
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**“Such cruel acts of terrorism reflect the brutality and inhumane mindset of the terrorists,” he added.
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**Terming those responsible for the attack ‘enemies of Pakistan’, the premier said the government will take action against extremist elements in the country after consulting all sides on the matter.
**Earlier, before leaving Pakistan, Prime Minister Nawaz said he was going to the UN General Assembly in New York “as a leader of a responsible democratic nation”.
“We are a peaceful nation and want to enhance economic cooperation, trade and investment in Pakistan. I will share my vision of a progressive, democratic and developed Pakistan, which has the desire to live at peace with its neighbors,” he said in a statement ahead of his departure.
“I will meet world leaders and heads of states to improve economic, political and strategic relationships with them,” he added.
The 68th session of the United Nations General Assembly will be held from September 23 (today) to September 29. Prime Minister Nawaz will address the session on September 27.
In his address to the UN General Assembly, the premier will highlight Pakistan’s foreign policy guidelines and its point of view on different regional and international issues.
He will also hold bilateral meetings with several world leaders, including his Indian counterpart, Manmohan Singh, on the sidelines of the General Assembly session.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 23rd, 2013.
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*Imran, while talking to media, blamed his political rivals for inciting the aggrieved Christians against the provincial government. He condemned them for politicising the incident. However, he seemed willy-nilly in condemning the terrorists who had attacked the innocent worshippers at one of the oldest churches of the city. *
PTI is running the govt yet its playing politics as if its the opposition party. As for IK, TTP should make him their honorary chief and a spokesperson. Seems like they have same goals...destruction of Pakistani state.
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PTI is running the govt yet its playing politics as if its the opposition party. As for IK, TTP should make him their honorary chief and a spokesperson. Seems like they have same goals...destruction of Pakistani state.
The way things are going (and if PTI has its way) after a few years, the government would be negotiating a surrender to the TTP (the Pakistani state).
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Baptised in blood - thenews.com.pk
Those who rule us should hang their heads in collective shame, when suicide bombers can enter a church in Peshawar and kill over 70 worshippers. The number is sure to rise as many of the 120 injured are in critical condition. If any of us professes shock that such an attack could take place here, that humanity could sink so low, their surprise will ring hollow. Even though no group has claimed responsibility for the attack as these lines are written, the answer to that question doesn’t really matter. All of us can guess; it is the same forces that have struck before – in many places, and in many ways.** We have become a country where identity – be it religion, ethnicity or gender – can be the difference between being allowed to live and having a permanent death sentence hanging over you. Christians are massacred while they pray, Shias are hauled out of buses and killed over belief and women are murdered, raped and humiliated because of traditional notions of ‘honour’.** The Christians – as patriotic and as Pakistani as any of us – have hardly ever been involved in controversies and have generally chosen to keep a relatively low profile, speaking out only peacefully about the ceaseless social, economic and religious discrimination in their face. **Have they been targeted because of their association with the ‘west’ and the notion that they have links with the Christians in the US and other nations? Who can assume that the madness that drives some to mow down human beings like that is immune to this brand of hatred? **
**The perfunctory words of condemnation that were issued by the politicians after the church attack are no longer enough. Sending a few government officials to the site of the attack – as Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif did by sending Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan and as the PTI leadership did, taking time out from meetings in the luxurious environs of Islamabad – will not suffice. **Haji Ghulam Ahmed Bilour of the ANP was forced to leave the spot due to the rage of mourners as he reached the church to condole with families. PTI chief Imran Khan has commented on how such attacks seem to take place just when peace talks are approaching and then lashed out at his political opponents, rather than those who committed this monstrosity. This is egregious behaviour. The absolute last thing we need right now is the usual bout of conspiracy theories – a result of flights of foolish fancy based on notions that ‘outside’ forces did it. It is no time for ignorance and irresponsibility. This country has borne too much pain for business to continue as usual. It is time to level with the citizenry. We can’t simply be told that talks will be the held with the militants and then everything will miraculously resolve itself. It must be explained, in great detail, exactly what is being done to check the triumphant march of hatred and madness. What concessions are on the table? If there is to be any red line, what is it? Right now, what should the victims, their families and people at large expect? That such attacks will continue with impunity without any consequences for those who perpetrate them? Members of the Christian community who blocked roads with the bodies of their loved ones should be joined by the rest of Pakistan. This should be no occasion to wonder just how many non-Christians – the members of Pakistan’s Muslim majority – mourn with them. This was an attack on everyone who doesn’t subscribe to obscurantist agendas. We have remained silent for far too long and silence now will have blood on its hands.
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Pakistan bleeds, heart bleeds. When will it stop?
It'll stop once everyone and i mean literally everyone in this country starts looking into the mirror for self reflection
Just go on the outside for a brief moment and see urself what's happening in the world and what is happening in Pakistan ..... just compare .....
But PPL can go on and deceive themselve .... still keep living in the Bubble - or - wake up and corrects it Path away from a slow but sure self destruction