75 tv channels to be operative by year-end: Durrani

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and i'ld say overseas Pakistani know and care more about Pakistan than the ppl living in there. People living there take it for granted and don't care much about keeping themselves up-to-date. They may be in the middle of the storm but hey remember You can only judge (and see) the storm's intensity from outside the storm and not into they eye of it

Secondly, its more likely that media is free and its hard to press in presence of 100 channels than having one govt controlled channel. Ever wondered why our "beloved democratic leaders" never allowed any other channel than PTV?

Ever thought in BB or NS era that someone can do a parody of PM ...and make fool of them and their stupid acts? Ever thought that political pundits can sit in a program and criticize government with great intensity? You accept it or not, its happening now a day....its better to accept the facts than to hide face in sand !

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Pfft. If you care more and know more why aren't you in Pakistan? Your second statement is pure ignorance. Hell you walk down any street or markaz in Pakistan and all you have is people discussing the current situation.

Secondly the reason why you have "freedom of the media" in Pakistan is because these stations are not all based in Pakistan. They are based abroad and thus their people can not be beat up.

I love the fact that you completely ignore what happened to Dawn and Aaj and go off on a bloody tangent.

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Well put. :k:

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just one word “manipulation”.

these media tactics are much more khichre then what we normally see, or in other wordz “wat we r forced to see”.

ground reality is politics + media is not every onez cup of tea. 75 channel doesnt exactly means they actually gonna exist-exist. even if they exist then they wont be more than doo-numbery maal.

ur area of concentration muct be “Y is he having this khr-aak (issue)?” :hoonh:

p.s. visual culture is a main part of my studies. :slight_smile:

Handis and Karahis and Baltis....
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I thought you were living abroad as well. My bad.

And you haven't asked a journalist in Pakistan for sure. There are mixed reactions as I have a friend who is a press reporter for a political magazine in Pakistan. Compared to earlier regimes, press certainly has more freedom.

Gen. Musharraf is a pseudo-dictator and you must remember how the freedom of press is actually curtailed during dictatorship if desired, if you remember Zia's blank newspaper period.

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Lets keep in mind that in Pakistan, corruption is not limited to the government. The common beggar is even corrupt. Not every journalist will report ethically. Not every news station will report ethically.

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bhai jaan, so-called democratic rulers were scared of their seats and challenges from within the country, they knew their corruption if exposed will very likely mean end of their careers. Dictators however are in different situation, they have to play the tune supplied from outside as they know their seat won't be in as much danger as long as they have outside support (& army).

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Nope.

Sweetheart lets not make assumptions shall we? I have spoken to a quite a few journalists and the stories they tell of intimidation are very very intense.

Define a pseudo-dictator please? The beauty of the Pakistani people, making up stuff to fit their own theories.

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Who are these “few” jarnaaa lists? :faizy: I seriously doubt everything considering people “conviniently” forgot gunja’s harkaat like storming the supreme court. Some of the banners that they should in newspaper here [nawaz sharif jamhuriat ki umeed blah blah] made me laugh sooo hard.

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These few are the ones who regularly come to our home :) Secondly don't for a second thing I support NS in his actions. Bullying the media and forcing the courts to bow to political pressure is repulsive. The question is can you claim the moral high ground on such matters?

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Musharraf is better than NS and BB on that so comparing to them, yes, he can claim the high moral ground. Musharraf and shortcut aziz are not without their faults but people's "jamhuriat ki umeed" aka BB / Gunja are worse than musharraf.

I am repulsed by the gunja's bs about supreme court and its izzat blah blah while none of the reporters remind him of his own kartoot.

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Can you please ask your friend journalists that if ‘Musharraf government’ had not allowed this mushrooming of media, would they be still employed or without mushrooming of medias, would your friend Journalists have been unemployed suicide bombers, bombing innocents?

I hope that this does not happened to your ‘Journalist friends’ what use to happen to journalists like ‘Hamid Mir’ of Geo before President Musharraf came to power and brought tolerant culture:

]Hamid Mir - Wikipedia

Mir joined the Daily Jang](Daily Jang - Wikipedia) (Lahore) in 1987 and worked there as sub-editor, reporter, feature writer and edition in charge. In 1994, he broke the submarines purchase scandal in Daily Jang. Some close friends of Asif Zardari (husband of then Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto) were involved in that scandal, along with some Navy officials. Mir lost his job the day his article was published.

In 1996, Mir became the editor of the Daily Pakistan Islamabad, making him the youngest editor of any national Urdu newspaper in the history of Pakistani journalism. He lost his job again in 1997, when he wrote an article in the Daily Pakistan about the alleged corruption of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

Or well, I hope that this does not happened to your journalist friends what happened to Rahman Malik, published in Guardian:

[Note: what is mentioned in British Newspaper ‘Guardian’ is quite respectable and accurate. Guardian is not one of those corrupt and immoral Pakistani Media outlets where most Media owners, Journalists, Anchors, Program Presenters, Comparers are immoral corrupts, to whom anyone can throw bone to get them write or present whatever that person wants, regardless of that being true or not. IN UK, if anyone writes or presents (on TV or any media) something wrong, they go to jail].

Search for the millions Sharif 'stole' | World news | The Guardian

They tortured Rehman Malik by placing his hands and feet on ice for up to an hour at a time at a ‘safe house’ in Islamabad. Three years on, he still has trouble feeling sensations in his palms and soles from the punishment, meted out in black masks, by Nawaz Sharif’s heavies.

His neck, too, bears the painful crick from a year spent in solitary confinement in a tiny cell at Rawalpindi’s Adila jail with a brick wrapped in newspapers for a pillow. Malik, in mortal fear of convicted terrorists and official hatchet men, found his monthly half-hour visit from his seven-year-old son his single comfort.

Three times following his arrest in November 1996 the courts ordered Malik’s release. Each time he was re-arrested on trumped up charges until, after 12 months of humiliation, the Pakistani Supreme Court itself ruled his detention illegal.

Malik’s crime? To have been the deputy head of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), Pakistan’s equivalent of the FBI, investigating allegations of massive corruption by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, his family and cronies.

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also, don't forget when AAj TV was attacked & we were all watching it live.........

Wedding-wear Maxis
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LMAO! Musharraf freed the media and thus raided AAJ TV headquarters 2 times and then arrested their journalists. Not to mention their dirty tactics with other leading Newspapers like Dawn.

Here is your problem. You think I will defend NS or BB. But I won't. They are *******s just like Musharraf. There is no difference between the three. Musharraf detains and tortures the opposition just like NS and BB. He harasses and closes down TV stations just like NS and BB.

As for the moral high ground you dumbass. I was referring to your position. You defend Musharraf by saying the Media is free due to him. Yet you refuse to acknowledge what happened to Dawn and AAJ TV, by Musharraf's Government.

Serfs will always be serfs.

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^ And haters will always be haters, and pessimists will always be pessimists. We know, we know.

Do you have any legit proof that it was Musharraf behind any of these supposed attacks (although I thought it was GEO offices attacked, not Aaj tv)? Do you have proof it wasn't opposition parties? Do you have proof it wasn't subsets of the Parliament who never bothered to let Musharraf know what they were going to do?

I'm not saying that you're wrong. Just that if you're going to make claims, can you please cite some proof so that we know where you're getting your information from? Some of us don't just blindly believe the most ardent arguments.

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Good god woman. If you don’t read Pakistani news papers it isn’t my fault. Flame of Life provided an even bigger list than I did.

The dawn issues was on their webpage for 2 months. They had the entire case stated for public consumption. If you don’t read the dawn or visit their website, not my problem.

The AAJ TV station was raided by the police and “other” forces, which is an official extension of the government. I am done drawing in crayons for you all. Either keep up with current events or don’t bother posting in PA.

Here you go. Proof. - CPJ urges Pakistani president to halt recent government harassment - Committee to Protect Journalists

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So I have spoken to one at least, many others might have different opinion. That does not mean the difference of opinion does not exist.

Don't you think I have the right to say exactly the same about you as what you wrote above. Like you I base my comments on my own observations, experiences and perception of reality.

The freedom of expression is what you are protecting here... Isn't it??

People skills, or rather the lack of it!
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The difference Witchdr, is that I took your comments at face value. I never made any assumptions regarding their authencity.

You did.

Freedom of expression does not mean lack of responsibility for your comments.

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you seem to be talking like a little child now.

even the biggest of biggest critics appreciate musharaf for the media boom and having a free media.

there is no way you can decline it except with some baked up excuses like you have given.

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Really who are these people? It certainly isn't Geo, Dawn or AAJ Tv. Stop making stuff up. Its not very credible.