72 Virgins

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Because some people are more concerned with PR…:halo:

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We women who are trying to get into heaven are also very concerned, and it has nothing to do with PR. Why should I continue working to get into heaven, when all that's going to happen is that I'd end up as Lajjo or Crescent's wife?

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It has everything to do with PR. The negative connotations to something that is clearly allegorical for the simple sake of mocking and ridiculing is not something Muslims do to themselves...the knee jerk embarrassment
(out of ignorance) to placate those who mock us is very much an act of PR.

And where did you get that you'd come back as someone's wife other than your husband's?

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What is the function of the Houri? Primary references only, please...

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Many here (and I am assuming those who blow themselves and others up for this honor) do not believe it to be allegorical. People wouldn't mock and ridicule if they didn't.

hi

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LoL My Wife? Where Did You Get That Idea From PyaariCgudia? Do You Remember This Style Of Writing From A Previous Guppy That Used To Be Here? I Think You Really Liked It!!!

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A hallmark of narrow mindedness is to project your own views and motives on others, regardless of what they do or think. Those who blow themselves up do so for reasons of conviction that, to date, have no reasonable link to the concept of Houri. That is spin YOU guys put on it.

Unless, of course, you're suggesting that the Tamil Tigers blow themselves up for these wide eyed virgins too...

Allegorical or not, your making fun of the concept...not the people. So I find your claim difficult to swallow.

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Ok, let's forget about the suicide bombers who on video and in writing talked of their anticipation of 72 hoors.

Let's address the people ON THIS SITE AND IN THIS THREAD who advocate this position.

Do you find their positions hard to swallow or are you just projecting your own views and motives while pretending theirs do not exist? Read the thread dude (and many others on gupshup) before lecturing me about my narrow mindedness.

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I would be so pissed if my husband decided to become a martyr and while I’m still down here he’s up there “playing house” with any number of virgins. So pissed. Why work so hard at being a good wife/mother/friend if all he does in the end is go and make romance with other women as soon as he’s rid of me? :mad:

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Oh, as if that ol canard will never crop up again. But sure.

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Do you find their positions hard to swallow or are you just projecting your own views and motives while pretending theirs do not exist?

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I'm not ascribing anything onto those who disagree...so I don't really follow. Now that you've taken this line of argument, does this imply you agree with one theology and not another?

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Read the thread dude (and many others on gupshup) before lecturing me about my narrow mindedness.
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It is what it is.

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If Allah wants to give us 72 nymphs then glory to Him but sex is not any Muslims main objective for wanting to get there, it is the "presence" of Allah, Paradise's true reality is beyond our comprehension anyway.

What angers me is not the mentioning of 72 nymphs but that they portrayed it as though Islam teaches and mainstream Muslims belive that suicide and killing innocents will take you to Paradise, idiots!!! and that Muslims are horny animals, lol we might be but no more than anyone else, and who would die for blondes? think a lot of themselves don't they? Which Muslim would want a woman with yellow hair and no color in her? eww, no thanks not my cuppa, if Muslim Jannah has blondes I think I might go have a look in Jewish Olamhaba, might be in look there, more into the Medditerean look myself..

sadly I'm not a religious guy but when I see their blatant hatred it makes me so patriotic towards Islam.

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I'm not promising that when the next video or statement is released by a mujahadeen after achieving matrydom, I won't post it. I wouldn't have, but I will now keep a sharp ear. Just for you.

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I'm not ascribing anything onto those who disagree...so I don't really follow. Now that you've taken this line of argument, does this imply you agree with one theology and not another?
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Then why pick on me instead of the Muslims who IN THIS THREAD advocate the 72 virgin theory? What I agree with is my 'theology' does not include limitless sex in the afterlife.

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It is what it is.
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Yes it is. Next time you should call them on it instead of calling me out for calling them out.

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what about the women?

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Ok while your listening to suicide bombers, remember to listen to the idioticy and contradictions your leaders are spitting out on the mic!

I can see you are being picked out because of your comments which lack knowledge. Are you muslim? How can you decide a matter of belief on behalf of us muslims?

Ok i dont know whats going on here, but it sounds like you have been taking too much pot! :)

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i dont think the hura are just for relationships, they look after you too e.g. serve drinks etc. you can also be reunited with your family (providing they are in heaven) i think...

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with 72 hoors around the last thing you want is your grandpa lurking around. privacy please!

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:confused: What does one have to do with the other? Does one validate or invalidate the other?

I wouldn’t pretend to, I can only speak to my beliefs. Muslims evidently can’t decide or lack knowledge since there are some here who believe in 72 virgins and some who don’t.

I’m not the one who doesn’t know whats going on. :smokin:

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Pakora, you are right, I guess they are bored with protraying us as terrorists, no one cares anymore so they thought hey why not..

Everyone else arguing, how about instead of worrying about what we will get in Jannah we worry about HOW we will get there and work on that?
Anyways, heres a lil something something to ponder upon:

  • Surah * **** AL-E-IMRAN****

003.007 *
**YUSUFALI:
* He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

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I am accepting applications from interested women who would like to hang with me in janat. we have limited openings..8500 only. on a first come first served basis.

legalize: this is assuming I and up in heaven and am allowed 8500 women, we may only pick the top 72 candidates, or maybe there will be none. In such instances the mgmt of this contest can not be sued

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We are talking about Hoors here…And Heaven…