My ‘ethnic cleansing’ remark was to ask them politely to leave, no bloodshed etc, I do sincerely apolgise if I offended you.
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Originally posted by ahmadjee: *
With Dr. Abdus Salam going to **take up his Nobel prize as a Pakistani*, regardless of his differences with the state's policies and the repeated discouragement of his initiatives.
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he has made it clear, time after time, that he is not a pakistani but an austrian....
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*Originally posted by armughal: *
with their beliefs we dont need any scholar issuing such a fatwa....
its clear to muslims with the least knowledge of their religion that ahmadis r not muslims....
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What is an ahmadis?
^^AAG…
One of Islam’s most strictest tenet is the belief that the Holy Prophet Mohammed :saw: was the last messenger of Allah :swt:. Any person who doesn’t believe that is not a Muslim…There is no way anybody can be a Muslim and claim that there was another prophet after the Holy Prophet :saw:
Ahmedis claim that he was not the last Prophet but someone called Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyyani was the last prophet…
Fine…So be it…Have your prophet…
But they claim this Mirza guy to be the last Prophet of Islam and yet they want to be recognized as Muslims around the world…
This man Mirza was born about a 100 years ago and claimed prophethood…
Unlike Muslims they believe that Mirza is the Mahdi…(Mahdi has to be living to called Mahdi)
They believe that Jesus :as: was killed and is buried somewhere in India and that this Mirza is in reality Jesus, God forbid, and there would be no Jesus coming back to this world again…
Hope that suffices for now…
Or
Go here for details…
can u plz bring ref and proof of ur statement, I am surpriced to read this, if austrian I wonder what he did in Italy
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Onething for sure, Araft become Nobel prize for freedom and some other Muslims too, but when Dr. Abdul Salam got it, Mullahs said Nobel Prize is Haram
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also try THIS](http://www.irshad.org/idara)
Take a look at this too:
I’m curious Lawajab,
How can one be sure that God will never ever send another prophet?
If so…
IMHO…I’m thinking what? He gave up on us all ready?
And I don’t think he did. I don’t think he ever will.
U think right.. He did not and He never will!!! that’s why He completed His mercy on us by sending a complete and ultimate system of life in the shape of Islam and by perfecting it in the way of last Prophet:saw:!
AAG, I don’t care if there are a million prophets around the world…Anyone can claim it, it’s not like it’s a degree or something…
You can be a prophet too…
However, you cannot be a Muslim and say there is another prophet after the Holy prophet :saw:…
It just doesn’t happen…
If they want a prophet, they should have their own faith, not distort Islam…
I don’t doubt that Islam is a good guide of living. Not at all.
But I think God is also for the Kaffir. In fact, I think the Kaffir are the ones who need him more than most.
I believe God is the spark of life inside everyone.
Even if one doesn’t recognize the spark.
The light is there.
For all people.
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
I don't doubt that Islam is a good guide of living. Not at all.
But I think God is also for the Kaffir. In fact, I think the Kaffir are the ones who need him more than most.
I believe God is the spark of life inside everyone.
Even if one doesn't recognize the spark.
The light is there.
For all people.
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when I said us, i meant the whole humanity :-)
Lawajab,
I suppose I will never be a Muslim, because I believe God will never give up on people.
And God is God.
People are people.
Yet IMHO. God is with us all.
btw guyz if u will learn about Islam, you wont go to any anti Islamic site, RIGHT?? :).
then when you guyz will learn about Ahmadiyyat, why go to anti ahmadis sites??
here are the official and private site of us.
www.alislam.org
and www.real-islam.org
Btw Prophets after AnHz Mohammad :saw:, Allah(swt) promise us in Holy Quran to send Prophets always, u only have to understand this :hehe:
but when AnHz Mohammad :saw: HIMSELF profecied about a prophet after him, what about this??
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Wrong…
No prophet will come after the Holy Prophet :saw:…
If you are referring to Hazrat Eesa :as:, he will not be a new Prophet…
Islam prophecies the coming of Jesus, but not as a new Prophet, but as a member of the Ummah…
Mirza Sahib is no Jesus…Jesus was a beautiful looking man and will be beautiful when he arrives…
This is Mirza…
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The Mahdi who died astaghfirullah…
i wonder why there were 124000 prophets at all!!!
lol, i read many times comments of anti ahmadis, who says that Hz Masih Maood :as isnt beatiful or whatever, I wonder are we creator or Allah(swt), acctually such ppl attack Allah(swt)´s power.
what´s wrong with dieing?? :), every1 will die, so was Hz Isa :as: too, he died and wont come back physically.
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*Originally posted by Risky: *
Bihari - well done ! We've all got to be really grateful for your reminder -we're all better muslims because you keep reminding us of these extremely important and significant issues in in our faith. Of course we don't have the wisdom to think for ourselves.
Seriously, I think it's really amazing. All the replies are an eye opener as to why muslims don't and won't progress beyond trivia and dogma. Having your own view and perspective is one thing, promoting ridicule of others is quite another. By the way, I'm not Ahmadi.
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May be for u it may not be a significant day..........for me it is ...................when u can celebrate saint velantines day,basant,fathers day ,mothers day,happy new years,etc with zeal why not spend this day by praying to all mighty that ALLAH SUBHANOTAALAH save us from all fitnas and pray for all those who are trying to protect us from the fitna....................
so what should we do inorder to progress.........
it is only because of this very attitude of muslim ulema (the are very firm on thier believe)that islam is true in its very form from the begening..........
RALLY AND OTHERS.......thanks for these great website.............
thanks ouija...........thats what we all are debating for ...that islam and qadianiat are 2 different things.............and posted that learn baout qadianiat from a qadiani site........it resolves the issue
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*Originally posted by Risky: *
Bihari - well done ! We've all got to be really grateful for your reminder -we're all better muslims because you keep reminding us of these extremely important and significant issues in in our faith. Of course we don't have the wisdom to think for ourselves.
Seriously, I think it's really amazing. All the replies are an eye opener as to why muslims don't and won't progress beyond trivia and dogma. Having your own view and perspective is one thing, promoting ridicule of others is quite another. By the way, I'm not Ahmadi.
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May be for u it may not be a significant day..........for me it is ...................when u can celebrate saint velantines day,basant,fathers day ,mothers day,happy new years,etc with zeal why not spend this day by praying to all mighty that ALLAH SUBHANOTAALAH save us from all fitnas and pray for all those who are trying to protect us from the fitna....................
so what should we do inorder to progress.........
it is only because of this very attitude of muslim ulema (the are very firm on thier believe)that islam is true in its very form from the begening..........
RALLY AND OTHERS.......thanks for these great website.............
thanks ouija...........thats what we all are debating for ...that islam and qadianiat are 2 different things.............and posted that learn baout qadianiat from a qadiani site........it resolves the issue
Hazrat Eesa :as: or Jesus did not die and will appear physically…After all, if Hazrat Eesa :as: can be born without a father, he can definitely be made to reappear physically…And that’s what will happen
Imam Mahdi has to be alive to do all that is promised…Your supposed Mahdi is dead, and is taking you all to the place where he is right now…
For your own sake, wake up…Come to Islam and leave Ahmediyyat…Ahmediyyat is a dark corridor with a darker end…
Don’t think I have anything against you Ouija, otherwise I could care less where you end up…