assalam olaikum…
7 septembers reminds us that historic day in 1974…when qadianis were declared nonmuslims by paksitan government…
it followed that in jeddah all eminent scholars of muslim world passed a resolution in later years to declare qadianis as kaffirs…
i cant understand that despite so much opposition from muslim world why an ordinary qadiani do not rethink to revert back to islam…
7th September mubarak ho Bao Ji…
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Re: 7-september............a day muslims never forget
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assalam olaikum........
7 septembers reminds us that historic day in 1974.......when qadianis were declared nonmuslims by paksitan government........
it followed that in jeddah all eminent scholars of muslim world passed a resolution in later years to declare qadianis as kaffirs...........
i cant understand that despite so much opposition from muslim world why an ordinary qadiani do not rethink to revert back to islam...........
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Thanks for posting that bao jee. So basically, Bhutto was the first leader in the Islamic world to have declared them non-Muslims? Can you shed some more light on the later years, as to how the scholars passed the resolution, in a historic perspective.
with their beliefs we dont need any scholar issuing such a fatwa....
its clear to muslims with the least knowledge of their religion that ahmadis r not muslims....
so ... sept 7th is a big day? is there a hallmark for that day? if not, it is not really that important ..
don't get me wrong... the decision is important .. the day in itself, means nothing .
Holy Prophet Mohammed SAAW said:
"In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals),
each of whom will claim to be a prophet,
But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me."
(Abu Dawood Vol 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol 2 p.45)
aap ko bhee 
I didn't know that.............
happy 7th September then. I will celebrate this day like an eid now :)
Well, I went to have some gol gappay and then had some cotton candy. Walked around soho and did some shopping at Moss. How did you celebrate the day that defines the unity among the pakistanis.
Bao bihari u have put ur hand into the hornets hive.
Bao bihari 100 pe bharee, per GS ne iss ke kismat maree, aur bun gaya yeh bao bicharee.
best of luck.:)
Were the proceedings of this momentus day recorded, if so is it available on video/dvd in pakistan?
another celeberation is just what we need:rolleyes:. We always waste time in trivial stuff. Not that i am saying it wasn’t significant they were declared non muslims. But whats the point of celebrating it by taking a day off and watching movies and hooting something against them. Thats usually how we celeberate! Hardly have i ever seen a pakistani celeberating positively.
jazakullah khair to all those fellows who replied to the thread..........
i only wanted to tell all guppies ,how important this day is to muslim ummah........what had started in pakistan in 7 sept.. was followed by many muslim and non muslim countries like south africa .....where they r called as non muslims.......
LAJAWAB,MUGHAL BHAI,RALLY,ANWAR BHAI,NOMAN,SPOCK,pakcanada......jazakalah....aap ko bhi mubarak ho....
assalam olaikum.........
7 Sep is the black day in the history of Islam, which shows how uneducated Mullahs are and how low level decison they made in the name of Islam.
Such events NEVER took place in the time of AnHz Mohammad :saw: where he just labeled some1 as Kafir.
May Allah(swt) save this country and Islam from such ppl who try to spread hate(which we see now everyday). Ameen
Btw for one reason a really good event, cuz after this Ahmadiyyat the reform of ISLAM spread so fast all over the world and Mullahs got more and more jelous YES 
. Alhamdolillah.
Allah o Akbar
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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
jazakullah khair to all those fellows who replied to the thread..........
i only wanted to tell all guppies ,how important this day is to muslim ummah........what had started in pakistan in 7 sept.. was followed by many muslim and non muslim countries like south africa .....where they r called as non muslims.......
LAJAWAB,MUGHAL BHAI,RALLY,ANWAR BHAI,NOMAN,SPOCK,pakcanada......jazakalah....aap ko bhi mubarak ho....
assalam olaikum.........
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Bihari - well done ! We've all got to be really grateful for your reminder -we're all better muslims because you keep reminding us of these extremely important and significant issues in in our faith. Of course we don't have the wisdom to think for ourselves.
Seriously, I think it's really amazing. All the replies are an eye opener as to why muslims don't and won't progress beyond trivia and dogma. Having your own view and perspective is one thing, promoting ridicule of others is quite another. By the way, I'm not Ahmadi.
Re: 7-september…a day muslims never forget
for ur logic, you dont go back in a room in which you are already IN , dont think I now compare Islam with a room.
We are already in Islam, back to Islam doesnt make any sense for us.
GOT IT?? 
The sad reality of this date is that no true form of 'ethnic cleansing' followed:(
And carrying out ethnic cleansing against a group of people would be something that is acceptable in Islam and looked upon with praise by Allah??? 
Actually it is a historic day in Pakistan's history and also the history of Ahmadiyya Jama'at. We all should reflect upon it and ask ourselves different questions. For example;
The purpose of the declaration was to call Ahmadis as Non-Muslims and then limit their activities! Has this been accomplished?! (1) After declaring them Non-Muslims the idea was to ban all their preaching, because according to the "Islamic" law as understood by the pious government of Pakistan, no Non-Muslim can preach in a Muslim land. But contrary to that the conversion rate of Ahmadis since then in Pakistan and around the world has only increased, in some cases exponentially! And now a days millions of people participate in the annual ba'iat initiation every year! (2)A ban on any kind of gathering of Ahmadis in their home town of Rabwah was proposed, & that was accomplished! Instead, Ahmadis now gather in all the different cities of Pakistan and around the world. This years Jalsa Salana (Annual Convention) of U.K had around 25 thousand people and Germany around 30 thousand. The one in Ghana reported to have 50 thousand participants. (3) Then, knowing the importance of Khilafa'at in Ahmadiyya jama'at, that particular institution was targeted by it's opponents. The publication that published the Friday sermon were banned. As a result Ahmadies resorted to audio tapes. Then the Audio tapes were banned, so the Ahmadis resorted to listen to the speech of their Khalifa by phone. Then all such phone sermons were banned and Allah SWT, opened a new way of communication between the jama'at & their Khalifa through world-wide seattleite channel, which is Mash'Allah working 24/7 through volunteers. (4) Despite all the efforts, that institution of Khalifa'at is as strong as ever among the Ahmadis! In April this year, as the fourth Khalifa passed away, many opponent of the jama'at believed that it is the end of the movement. Instead, in the utmost organized fashion Ahmadi Members of the Khila'fat committee from all over the world gathered in the Fazal Mosque London, on a very short notice. And according to the guidelines already prescribed, they chose their next Khalifa! Reportedly, 25 thousand people were present at the occasion who had come from all over the world to pay their respect to Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad & attend his janazza and wanted to be among the first to take ba'iat on the hands of the new Khalifa.
And the examples of Ahmadiyya jama'at progress go on and on .. so has declaring Ahmadis as Non-Muslims accomplished anything as far as their progress is concerned?
Second question Pakistanis might ask themselves is that, has this measure made any effect on Islam & it's unity or understanding? Forget about it's effect on Islam & it's understanding globally, just in Pakistan .. what significant positive change has this measure made? Are more people in Pakistan now religious? Had the decision turned them towards religion and have the mosques now filled with the followers of faith? Are more people say their 5 daily prayers? Are the other sects of Islam joined their hands & have united? Maybe united against persecuting Ahmadis but other than that they haven't changed even an iota! The fact of the matter is that sectarian violence is on the rise, people are killed in mosques every other day, they are preached to hate from the places that are suppose to teach them to love their fellow man ...
Another question one might ask is what effect has it on the civil life of Ahmadis from Pakistan. The first ever Anti-Ahmadiyya riots began in 1954, and up till the 70s, the Ahmadis were persecuted on individual basis but not on a systemized manner in public through the aide of the government. So, we see that Ahmadis contributed to the public life of Pakistan with people like Zafarullah Khan Sahib, Dr. Abdus Salam, great economist & administrator like M. M. Ahmad etc. And even after the 70s, these great souls continued to serve their country. With Dr. Abdus Salam going to take up his Nobel prize as a Pakistani, regardless of his differences with the state's policies and the repeated discouragement of his initiatives. ZafarUllah Khan sahib, an international celebrity, chose to be buried in the great land of his, Pakistan. But unfortunately the Ahmadi generation that followed them & were brought up in 70s & 80s were so disheartened that they started to leave the country. And it hurts to say that when the next Abdus Salam will come, some might cheer on his Pakistani origin, but most probably he will belong to another country.
Lastly, how is Pakistan doing since the 70s when they declared Ahmadis as Non-Muslims. If this is such a big event of celebration, Pakistan must have benefited from it, right? So, where is the progress? Contrary to that, most people, be it democracy lovers or the ones who like the military, be it religious or secular, agree that the country has gone down the tubes! So, if Allah had blessed the nation with such a significant decision, He sure doesn't seem to be happy about it.
And I always thought 7th september was Yom e Fazaaya (Airforce Day)....