Re: 62 dead in suspected blast on India-Pakistan train
Well, my understaning is that an attack by Muslim extermists would be bomb related… This one involved some sort of fuel ignition.. Not a technique employed by Muslim terrorists.
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wow.....your understanding is great!!
Yess.. those terrorists, who can use bombs cannot use low grade materials..isn't it.
And yeah...they know that they have to leave the clue or some sort of Dhoom-2 trademark, after they commit a crime...huh
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Sure, you would never IMAGINE hindu extremists EVER doing something like this.. The possibility never even came to mind.
Muslim extremists have always been far more sophisticated then this… Im not trying to praise them just making a point.
These guys apparently set this thing up and then argued with the conductor to let them of the train… This is really not how the Muslim extremists operate. They would have setup a bomb and gotten of long before setting it of..
The whole situation seems suspiciously like something more akin to Hindu extremists.
All im saying is that anyone could be responsible for this one, and you for some reason have closed your eyes.
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All I want to say is...let's do not jump on conclusion before any enquiry is completed or else the difference between a conclusion and propaganda becomes blurred!
So as you said..let's keep eyes open!!
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Some details have started trickling in.
12 train blast victims identified
NEW DELHI: The High Commission for Pakistan in New Delhi on Tuesday received from the Indian authorities a list of 12 Pakistani nationals, whose bodies have been identified by their relatives.
According to a statement, the identified Pakistanis are: Mrs Razia Sultan W/o Izhar R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone Karachi; Izhar Hussain, s/o Mohammad Baksh R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone Karachi; Syed Iftikhar Ali, s/o Rabal Ali R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone Karachi; Ashraf Jehan W/o Syed Iftikhar Ali R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone, Karachi; Mehak D/o Syed Iftikhar Ali R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone Karachi; Syed Hassan Ali, s/o Syed Iftikhar Ali R/o 354/15A North Buffer Zone Karachi; Taslim Khan S/o Idris R/o Mohalla Churipara Hyderabad, Sindh; Shafik Ahmad, s/o Makbool Khan, R/o 54 Sec 5-E Majad Mohalla, Karachi; Nifisa Begum, R/o Mohalla Churipara, Hyderabad; Mehreen Khan d/o Taslim Khan R/o Mohalla Churipara, Hyderabad; Rauf Amin s/o Taslim Khan, R/o Mohalla Churipara Hyderabad and Muhammad Sajid s/o Taslim Khan, R/o Mohalla Churipara, Hyderabad.
In addition to the above, another Pakistani national Muhammad Haris S/o Sheikh Rashid, R/o Orangi Town, Karachi, passed away at Safdarjung Hospital, New Delhi on Tuesday morning. “This brings the total number of identified Pakistani fatalities so far to 13. We expect to receive further information from the Indian authorities in this regard”, the press statement said.
Furthermore, the Indian authorities have informed that the bodies of last six persons in the list have been handed over to their relatives, who are taking them to Pakistan, the statement added.
Meanwhile, the Foreign Office in Islamabad on Tuesday issued the names of 10 Pakistani victims of the Samjhota Express blast incident, admitted to the Burns Department of Safdarjung Hospital in New Delhi.
The victims’ names, addresses and contact numbers in India received from the office of Addl DG and MS, Safdarjang Hospital and VMMC, New Delhi, are as follow:
1 Mrs Rukhsana, 46, w/o Rana Shauket Ali, Samanabad, House No. 2239 Block 38 Faisalabad, (Kale Khan Mob 9873532211, 011-22616678 and Yasmeen 9818736915).
2 Aksa, 1, d/o Rana Shauket Ali, Samanabad, House No 2239, Block 38, Faisalabad, (Kale Khan Mob 9873532211,011-22616678 and Yasmeen,9818736915).
3 Rana Shauket Ali, 46, s/o Shamshad Ali, Samanabad, House No 2239, Block 38, Faisalabad, (Kale Khan Mob 9873532211,011-22616678 and Yasmeen 9818736915).
4 Haris Muhammad, 15, s/o Muhammad Rafiq, Orangi Town, Sec 9, Bilal Masjid, Karachi, (House No 1196, Sec 7, Pushp Vihar, New Delhi Mob 991022164).
5 Nadeem, 25, s/o Fateh Muhammad, Mirpurkhas, (Abdul Rashid Hassan Pura, Jaipur Abdul Sattar (brother-in-law) Mob 09352780121).
6 Ramesh Kumar, 48, s/o Sikander Lal, Mohalla Dharuwal, Gali Haquikat Rai, Sialkot (Ratan Kumar (brother), M-24, Kalkaji, New Delhi Tel 264684779 899912221)
7 Ashok Kumar, 21, s/o Kishor Kumar, Mohalla Dharuwal, Gali HaquiKat Rai, Sialkot (Ratan Kumar (brother), M-24, Kalkaji, New Delhi, tel 264684779 899912221).
8 Muhammad Shakeel, 10, s/o Fateh Muhammad, Mirpurkhas, (Abdul Rashid Hassan Pura, Jaipur, Abdul Sattar (brother-in-law) Mob 09352780121).
9 Abdul Qayyum, 56, s/o Muhammad Idris, M Orangi Town, Sec 1, Bilal Masjid, Karachi, (Javed Hussain Badi Khatum Dist, Nagor, Rajastan, Mob 09460433115).
10 Shamim Muhammad, 9, s/o Muhammad Shafiq, M Orangi Town, Sec 9, Bilal Masjid, Karachi, (House No 1196, Sec 7, Pushp Vihar, New Delhi Mob 991022164).
Re: 62 dead in suspected blast on India-Pakistan train
Bal Thhakre has explained that Hindus are not behind this attack. Because Hindus are peace loving people.
I beleive Bal Thhakre, like I beleive any Muslim ulema, Bin Laden and President Bush.
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I didnt jump to conclusions, but then lets not ignore any possibilities…
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Maybe it was Muslim extremists, maybe it was Hindu, just dont know… I would automatically assume it was Muslim terrorists if it didnt seem so suspicious.
Re: 62 dead in suspected blast on India-Pakistan train
Can you please tell me why you are so interested in finding faults with Hindus?
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May be it is neither Muslim nor Hindu..but just a fanatic "terrorist"..
....I doubt your intentions..when you yourself classify killers as Muslims or Hindus..
... it seems you will be pleased when it's proved that killers were born in Hindu family...however you are still missing the fact that even if it is the case it will neither reduce the pain of those sufferring nor it will reduce the crime of previous murderous acts of fanatics....
Let's wait for a throrough investigation..whichever terrorist group has done this must be brought to law for punishment.
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It just doesnt seem like the hallmark so to speak of Muslim extemists… When have you ever heard of them useing this technique, where they set up a small bomb that ignites some flamable substance. Muslim extremists tend to go for one bomb many dead, thats it.
And whos finding fault with Hindus? If Hindus are responsible then so be it, I didnt make it that way they did.. If they didnt then so be it.
Stop being so politically correct here, anyone could be responsible at this point.
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Well, to be quite frank, its the Indians who are always pointing fingers at people… I know it was terrorists who did it, thats not the question, its a question of which group of terrorsits.
You seem to not be used to having fingers pointing in your direction like we are over in Pakistan. Not a very nice feeling but hell, if its sounds like a duck and wlaks like a duck then what is it?
Fact remains that there are different types of terrorists, some are Muslim some are Hindu. The two groups are very different… Why mince words here, lets call a spade a spade.
Im willing to wait for the results… But get over your hangup here… If its Lashkar or some other stupid group then fne, if its not, then its not.
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where are the hindu terrorists? what are the names of their organizations? what terrorist attacks have they perpetrated?
there are hindu bigots. there are hindu murderers and cold-blooded killers.
“murderer” and “terrorist” are not interchangeable synonyms.
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shiv sena is probably the most well-known hindu terroistic organizattion
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Your friend up there was the one who said that there are Hindu terrorists…
You just playing with semantics here… A murderer is a terrorist and vice versa…
The term terrorist is not some monolithic term with just one clear definition…
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Indian Army in Kashmir isnt that far of either but then thats just my oppinion.
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lol...
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that may be true, but there is a clear conventional definition of “terrorism”…planting bombs on trains is in line with this definition.
technically, a bully beating up some kid on a playground can be termed a “terrorist”…but would anybody say that? no.
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shiv sena is a political party.
shiv sena may have thuggish followers and a bigoted disposition, but where is the terrorism?
breaking the glass of stores selling valentine’s day cards? digging up a cricket pitch?
when they have resorted to violence, it is a very primitive form of violence…beatings and hand-to-hand murder.
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well, aparently the explosives on this train were alse pretty primtive/unsophsiticated.......so draw your own conculsions