4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.

Afridi786 · August 20, 2006, 8:49pm

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You really think Hair cares? lol hes probably celebrating, and ICC/ English Media support him in his wrong decisions.

fkhan2 · August 20, 2006, 8:52pm

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^ the b@ast@rd has the license from ICC to screw Pakistan. Today, first Raja and then Inzi for the very first time admitted openly that Pakistan has appealed against Hair several times in the past that they don’t want him to officiate Pakistan matches. Still ICC kept on appointing him. What does that prove? ICC gives a damn about Pakistan and their continous backing for the baised Hair resulted in this ugly incidence.
Shame on ICC, shame on ICC elite panel, and Shame on Darrel Hair:mad:

Lucid_Chaotic · August 20, 2006, 8:53pm

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I’m with Pakistan all the way!

Probably what happened was that Mr. pubic Hair stood his ground insisting that he did the right thing and on questioning by Pakistani officials wasn’t able to provide evidence… and him and the ICC together refused to give an official statement or re-awarding the runs back.

Even if the option to continue was being considered, it would have been tantamount to accepting the allegation and Pakistan refused. :k: :k:

desidudecool · August 20, 2006, 8:53pm

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hair wont resign..infact he will be asked to officiate more matches involving pakistan and other asian teams..the more asian teams complain about this guy the more icc seems to support thim...pakistan board had questioned his appointment to officiate matches involving pakistan but they received a slap in the office by icc as he was given 2 matches in this series

Afridi786 · August 20, 2006, 8:57pm

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stupid mother*in icc *in b*st**ds!!!
Pakistan better not play ODI's if ICC and Hair don't apologize so we can show the world we r not a bunch of pushovers and all this was not done in vain!

Mr.Genius · August 20, 2006, 9:00pm

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totally :k:

ICC has been EXPOSED — they’ve reached their lowest… quite pathetic display really.

Mr.Genius · August 20, 2006, 9:03pm

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Asif Iqbal’s take on Hair

Raindance · August 20, 2006, 9:04pm

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Time is running out as the trail of events getting cold ! Pakistan should withdraw from the one dayer’s asap with a statement NOW !

SCREW ONE DAYER’S under ICC dictatorship !

Guys ! Please voice your concerns now, ODIrs should not take place

I suddenly feel the pain of the people who do what thay must do !

Sohaib · August 20, 2006, 9:05pm

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Well put.

But game of cricket lost today. Consequences of this tragic incident will go a long way. One thing is for sure. Hair wont be officiating in any pakistani game from now on.

Fayz · August 20, 2006, 9:07pm

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Hair won the battle.

His decision in favour of England's victory is the final outcome. What prompted the whole controversy is still outstanding. What an open display of racism.

This match should have been abandoned instead!!! That would have been a somewhat better call by the ICC. This is ridiculous. I wish Imran Khan was leading our side...somebody needs to stand up and return the slap! fkin ghareeb qaum

Imagine a Pakistani umpire changing the ball like this. Goras would have fired him on the spot!

Mr.Genius · August 20, 2006, 9:09pm

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Dickie Bird blames the UMPIRES

All_Rounder · August 20, 2006, 9:15pm

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If the umpires were right to deem that Pakistan had forfeited the match,then why they did come back 2nd time around?I am very sure that ,there is another biased, Sunil gavaskar involved and behind this decision of awarding this match to England,and the most sad part is that nothing will happen to ,public hair ,or any body else responsible for this situation,They will remain haunting Pakistan as ever before,It is such a heart broking and tragic day for every Cricket fan of Pakistan,Insulting,Disgusting,Our board has accepted,that ,yes ,our team cheated ,So we forfeite the Match,I just can,t still believe this whole episode even now, and probably never will,

Sohaib · August 20, 2006, 9:15pm

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Inzi was absolutely dignified today with his approach.

Mr.Genius · August 20, 2006, 9:17pm

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Now Imran Khan blames Hair

http://www.stickcricket.com/feature20.html

The final England-Pakistan Test hangs in the balance, after Pakistan refused to play on after being accused of ball-tampering by umpire Darrell Hair.

Hair insisted the ball was changed during the afternoon session. And after a rain interval and an early tea, Pakistan refused to come out and play, in protest.

Eventually, when they DID come out, the umpires refused to come out, apparently ruling that Pakistan had forfeited the game.

Talks between England and Pakistan officials and the ICC were ongoing at time of writing.

Stick Cricket’s partner magazine SPIN - www.spincricket.com - has Pakistan legend Imran Khan as a star columnist. We asked Imran what he had made of the day’s bizarre events - and he slammed umpire Hair’s handling of the game, calling for his removal from the ICC’s list.

“Unless Darrell Hair can supply concrete proof of ball-tampering, then I think the Pakistan management should seriously consider suing him,” Imran told us. "It’s a very serious allegation to accuse a team of cheating: if I were in their position, I would certainly consider suing Hair.

"When a ball is 55 overs old, it is absolutely impossible to tell if a scratch on the ball has been made by a player’s nail, or from the pitch - which is scuffed up by the fourth day - or from hitting an advertising board.

"Hair needs to present concrete proof that a Pakistan player has wilfully damaged the ball.

"Whatever happens next at the Oval, the ICC should strike Hair off the umpires list. Umpiring is not about pedantic, literal application of the rulebook: the umpire’s role is two-fold. First, to take charge of the game. But, just as importantly, to keep the game going, to be conciliatory: you don’t put out fires with gasoline.

"That’s why Dickie Bird was such a great umpire: he made mistakes sometimes. But he always went out of his way to be conciliatory. There was never any controversy when he was umpiring. With Hair, there’s ALWAYS controversy.

"Pakistan have been unhappy with Hair’s umpiring before: it’s his manner, as if he wants to stamp his authority on the game. These kind of umpires do so much damage to the game.

"If he thought the ball had been tampered with, Hair should have given Inzamam a warning - instead of immediately jumping in and suggesting that ball tampering had occurred.

"Inzamam made a big mistake: he should have taken a stand on the spot when the ball was changed. Not coming out after tea was the wrong kind of protest. The captain’s job is to focus on winning the game. The manner of the protest has lost Pakistan valuable time in a game they looked like winning.

"Inzamam should have called in the team management as soon as Hair decided to change the match ball.

“Apart from anything else, changing the ball disadvantaged Pakistan - the new ball didn’t swing.”

"If Inzamam had decided not to come out after tea as a protest - why did he eventually come out with the team? Everything looked chaotic. There were all sorts of PCB officials in the dressing room; the chairman of the PCB, Sharyar Khan, had no right giving an interview to Sky.

"Every team gets the ball to swing after 50 overs. By Hair’s logic, England shouldn’t have won the Ashes last summer - they only beat Australia thanks to reverse swing.

“Pakistan are very sensitive to allegations of cheating. When Wasim and Waqar were bowling reverse swing in England in 1992, there was such a huge tabloid campaign suggesting they were cheating. Last year, England won the Ashes with reverse swing and people like Simon Jones were national heroes,so it’s understandable that Pakistan are very sensitive to these kind of allegations.”

farazrafi · August 20, 2006, 9:22pm

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Pakistani Cricket Board should be ashamed of themselves! Dravid and Indian team would have received the backing of their board as they are not sell outs like our PCB board. I can't believe the events that took place today. Hair didn't even offer any explanation to Inzi like he was supposed to. Racist Biggot indeed

inzi_rocks · August 20, 2006, 9:37pm

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I can't blv that the PCB are actually giving in so easily,.................scrap that old fogey of an excuse 4 a chairman of the PCB. i rekon the new chairman of the PCB should be none other then our own Imran Khan,...he's the only person who is redi 2 stand up 4 his country in whatever form or shape.

fkhan2 · August 20, 2006, 9:49pm

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At 10pm London time, in a makeshift press conference hall in the bowels of the Oval pavilion, it was finally decided that the fourth Test between England and Pakistan should be forfeited in favour of England, after an extraordinary day of rumour, speculation, and high farce that brought the game to the brink of arguably its biggest crisis since Bodyline.

Four long hours after play was called off for the day, and after protracted negotiations between the ICC, the ECB and the PCB, it was left to David Collier, the ECB’s chief executive, to read out a statement that will doubtless raise more questions than answers. Though both teams and their boards were keen for the match to continue, it was the umpires, Darrell Hair and Billy Doctrove, who were not willing to budge from their original decision.

“It was concluded with regret that there will be no play on the fifth day,” read the statement. “The fourth npower Test match between England and Pakistan has therefore been forfeited with the match being awarded to England. In accordance with the laws of cricket it was noted that the umpires had correctly deemed that Pakistan had forfeited the match and awarded the Test to England.”

It may have been the correct application of the letter of the law, but the decision made a mockery of a match in which Pakistan had made all the running from the very first morning, and had been bubbling towards a thrilling conclusion on the final morning, as England looked set to put at least a token target on the board.
According to Surrey officials, 12,000 tickets had been sold in advance - all of which will now have to be refunded, along with 40% of today’s takings - a combined loss of about £400,000. And Pakistan will certainly not be content to return home with a 3-0 defeat to their name, not to mention the further implications of the forfeiture. As Bob Woolmer announced at the close of play: “The team is upset by the inference they have been accused of tampering with the ball and therefore cheating.”

The initial incident took place in the 56th over, when umpires Hair and Doctrove deemed that the quarter seam on the ball had been raised and would therefore have to be changed. But the situation only really kicked off after tea, as the Pakistanis remained in their dressing-room in protest at the decision.

After waiting in the middle of the pitch for twenty minutes, he umpires went to the Pakistan dressing-room to ask whether or not Inzamam-ul-Haq would lead out his team or not before they went out, took the bails off and left, thus awarding the Test to England.
Cricinfo has learnt that after Pakistan refused to come out after the tea break, both umpires, after waiting on the field, went to the Pakistan dressing room to ask whether or not they would continue to play. Inzamam countered by asking the umpires why they had changed the ball, which led to the Pakistan team protesting.

“We are not here to answer that question,” Hair was reported to have said, and when Inzamam didn’t provide any reply to their initial query, they walked back out again. By the time Pakistan were eventually led out onto the field by Inzamam, the umpires had already walked on, knocked the bails off and gone back inside, refusing to come out again.

The decision was made according to Law 21, regarding the result of a match, which states, “A match shall be lost by a side which in the opinion of the umpires refuses to play.” A further subsection adds, “If an umpire considers that an action by any player or players might constitute a refusal by either side to play then the umpires together shall ascertain the cause of the action. If they then decide together that this action does constitute a refusal to play by one side, they shall so inform the captain of that side. If the captain persists in the action the umpires shall award the match in accordance with above.”
© Cricinfo

*I am interested in finding out that when Mr. Hair went into Pakistan’s dressing room, and after his conversation with Inzi, did he inform Pakistan captain that his actions will force the umpires to award the match to England? *
I am assuming that arrogant prick simply told inzi to answer him and not to question his authority and left the room.

CheGuvera · August 20, 2006, 10:10pm

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Sir Dig A Lot:

Let's focus on the issue at hand man, stop bashing PCB officials for being on tour. "All expenses paid trips" were a problem in the 80s when the boards depended on gate money for their income and not these days. Did you want to marry Sheharyar Khan's daughter and are upset on being refused? You have been lambasting him for weeks on this board, for things such as Inzimam's losing toss to team selection (of course I am exaggerating, but you get my drift). And no PCB is not the only board that sends its officials to other countries for various reasons. These tours are good opportunities for some officials to travel abroad and meet other officals for various reasons. Stop being so stingy and distrusting man.

I am upset at Sheharyar Khan, but not for him being here, but for him being here and YET not handling the situation properly (in my view). But I don't think it's fair to use this opportunity to follow your bash-PCB agenda.

Thanks for toeing the official line...On the contrary, enslaven liberal daddy's little whore of a daughter won't exactly be up my alley and the way you are kissing sheryar's a$$, you'd be more of a candidate in the running for the dyke...

Sir_Dig_A_Lot · August 20, 2006, 10:30pm

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This is where Pakistan messed up, by saying that they were willing to come back and play. That muddied up the whole situation and now everybody is talking about forfeiture and not about the ball tampering accusation itself.

I hate this. They should have either forfeited the match when they didn't come out as a protest, or they should have waited until the day was over to stage a protest.

This 'delay-only-protest' has caused people pointing out that Pakistan were responsible in getting the match abandoned when we want them talking about Darrell Hair being unfair in adjudging ball tampering.

dhobi_bhai · August 20, 2006, 10:33pm

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I have read all the posts in every thread, listened to the audio reports and watched the video clips, and I have tried to maintain the burning volcano inside of me, but I will not take this open display of prejudiced and tendentious one-sided biased dogmatic racism anymore. This is the height of bigotry and a dark day in the history of Pakistan, and that nephew of Satan and white Australian piece of ignorant gutter trash can go straight to hell as far as I am concerned.