3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

[Ali_R]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

@saieen

indian batsmen sticking it to the paki bowlers

IND 97/2, overall lead of 186. indians have shown more aggression than the pakistanis.however, i don’t think india will declare at any time 2morrow to give pak any chance of batting, unless they get all out. pak should have had declared at around 500 runs and put india in to have more time to bowl at them. but i don’t know wht YK was thinking. whether you lose by 1-0 or 2-0, its all the same in the end & YK certainly missed the trick there by not declaring and letting the game drag on for so long. oh well, he’ll pay for it.

Makes a lot of sense on a mere batting pitch.

[saieen]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

** India 626 & 131/2 (37.0 ov)
Pakistan 537
** India lead by 220 runs with 8 wickets remaining

*Stumps - Day 4
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so indians are firmly in the driving seat. all they have to do now is to stretch the lead to say 275 run in the first hr of play, then declare and let pak to have a go at it. well thats wht i think kumble should do to bring the best out of this test match. but i think kumble will be just as much brave as YK was today and let the batsmen have more batting practice, especially with australian tour down under is just a few weeks away. anyhow, my guess for 5th day is as good as yours. for now, indians have the upper hand and they thoroughly deserve it.

[Sohaib]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

I did not expect us to win this match with Danish and Sami in same team. 1 pessenger chal jata hai, 2 is too much.

[ajtr]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

@GoldenAsif

Misbah is a strong contender for the man-of-the-series award :k: He has scored 427 in this series runs at an astonishing average of 142.33 with 2 hundreds & 1 fifty and improved his over-all test average from 17.25 before the current series to 42.26

Ganguly has made 443 runs with two hundreds at an average of 88.60

ganguly also has 4 wickets to flaunt.its gona be between misbah and ganguli at last for man of the series

[Arun]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

will be ganguly his innings have had a greater impact on the direction of the series

[Captain1]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

** India 626 & 131/2 (37.0 ov)** Pakistan 537 India lead by 220 runs with 8 wickets remaining

Stumps - Day 4

so indians are firmly in the driving seat.** all they have to do now is to stretch the lead to say 275 run in the first hr of play**, then declare and let pak to have a go at it. well thats wht i think kumble should do to bring the best out of this test match. but i think kumble will be just as much brave as YK was today and let the batsmen have more batting practice, especially with australian tour down under is just a few weeks away. anyhow, my guess for 5th day is as good as yours. for now, indians have the upper hand and they thoroughly deserve it.

what you been smokin dude? They will declare more like around the same score as in 2nd test. Kumble doesn't have guts to declare at 275 with 80+ overs remaining.

[Ali_R]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

** India 626 & 131/2 (37.0 ov)** Pakistan 537 India lead by 220 runs with 8 wickets remaining

Stumps - Day 4

so indians are firmly in the driving seat. all they have to do now is to stretch the lead to say 275 run in the first hr of play, then declare and let pak to have a go at it. well thats wht i think kumble should do to bring the best out of this test match. but i think kumble will be just as much brave as YK was today and let the batsmen have more batting practice, especially with australian tour down under is just a few weeks away. anyhow, my guess for 5th day is as good as yours. for now, indians have the upper hand and they thoroughly deserve it.

Ha! Make me laugh, so you mean India is getting bored and needs some competition.

[Arun]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Ha! Make me laugh, so you mean India is getting bored and needs some competition.

I don't think he meant that at all .. how did u manage to assume that?

[Fayz]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Indian batsmen will not put 600s on Australian pitches. So much for the preparation!

This series was a waste of time for everyone other than some batsmen who added to their superficial 'records'.
Then you wonder why India doesn't produce good bowler..the pitches are graveyards for bowlers.

Shame on Indian management..losing a match like a lion is better than winning a series like a mouse.

[cricketplaya]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Indian batsmen will not put 600s on Australian pitches. So much for the preparation!

This series was a waste of time for everyone other than some batsmen who added to their superficial 'records'. Then you wonder why India doesn't produce good bowler..the pitches are graveyards for bowlers.

Shame on Indian management..losing a match like a lion is better than winning a series like a mouse.

couldn't agree more

[Ali_R]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

I don't think he meant that at all .. how did u manage to assume that?

Maybe?
quoting saieen:

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275 run in the first hr of play, then declare and let pak to have a go at it. well thats wht i think kumble should do to bring the best out of this test match.
[/quote]

[Decent_6Chora]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Decent, Its time to move on. Do you think we lack of talent in domestic cricket? Ok agreed he has style, he is one of the best players in the world...but everything (every one) has It's time. And It's time to move on for Yousef. His inconsistancy has proved me right. Besides these were not 3 low games by his standard but for Test Cricket standard over all. If he'd had made 50s in all three games, that makes a low by his standards. He should leave us in style not by force!

Here is the list of his runs in all outings from jan 2006 to now

 173   -     -  - 1    D 1st Test  v Ind in Pak 2005/06 at Lahore [1781]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  65   -     -  - 1    D 2nd Test  v Ind in Pak 2005/06 at Faisalabad [1782]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
 126   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   0   -     -  - 1    W 3rd Test  v Ind in Pak 2005/06 at Karachi [1783]
   -  DNB    1  0 2    
  97   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    W 2nd Test  v SL  in SL  2005/06 at Kandy [1796]
  17   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  14*  -     -  - 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    D 1st Test  v Eng in Eng 2006    at Lord's [1809]
 202   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    1  0 3    
  48   -     -  - 4    
  38   -     -  - 1    L 2nd Test  v Eng in Eng 2006    at Manchester [1811]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  15   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    L 3rd Test  v Eng in Eng 2006    at Leeds [1813]
 192   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
   8   -     -  - 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    L 4th Test  v Eng in Eng 2006    at The Oval [1814]
 128   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    W 1st Test  v WI  in Pak 2006/07 at Lahore [1815]
 192   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    1  0 3    
 DNB   -     -  - 4    
  56   -     -  - 1    D 2nd Test  v WI  in Pak 2006/07 at Multan [1816]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
 191   -     -  - 3    
 102   -     -  - 1    W 3rd Test  v WI  in Pak 2006/07 at Karachi [1818]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
 124   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    W 2nd Test  v SA  in SA  2006/07 at Port Elizabeth [1829]
  32   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  18   -     -  - 4    
  83   -     -  - 1    L 3rd Test  v SA  in SA  2006/07 at Cape Town [1830]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  18   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    D 2nd Test  v SA  in Pak 2007/08 at Lahore [1844]
  25   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  63*  -     -  - 4    
  27   -     -  - 1    L 1st Test  v Ind in Ind 2007/08 at Delhi [1849]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  18   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    D 2nd Test  v Ind in Ind 2007/08 at Kolkata [1850]
   6   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  44*  -     -  - 4    

If you call this "in consistent" then God knows k whats your "consistency" is! Only in-consistency that I see in the lists is quite a few "DNB" :)

I totally agree with u that every good thing has to come to an end but for Yousuf, I dont see end in near future .....

[pidbull]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

India really has no reason to put in the effort of scoring quickly and trying to take 10 wickets on the last day...would be really interesting if they do tho

Pakistan seems to have no interest in winning the match, they took their time and didnt attempt to score quickly to have more time to get India out again, they were batting for a draw from the first ball

[Ali_R]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Here is the list of his runs in all outings from jan 2006 to now

   -  DNB    0  0 1    W 2nd Test  v SA  in SA  2006/07 at Port Elizabeth [1829]
  32   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  18   -     -  - 4    
  83   -     -  - 1    L 3rd Test  v SA  in SA  2006/07 at Cape Town [1830]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  18   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    D 2nd Test  v SA  in Pak 2007/08 at Lahore [1844]
  25   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  63*  -     -  - 4    
  27   -     -  - 1    L 1st Test  v Ind in Ind 2007/08 at Delhi [1849]
   -  DNB    0  0 2    
  18   -     -  - 3    
   -  DNB    0  0 4    
   -  DNB    0  0 1    D 2nd Test  v Ind in Ind 2007/08 at Kolkata [1850]
   6   -     -  - 2    
   -  DNB    0  0 3    
  44*  -     -  - 4    

If you call this "in consistent" then God knows k whats your "consistency" is! Only in-consistency that I see in the lists is quite a few "DNB" :)

I totally agree with u that every good thing has to come to an end but for Yousuf, I dont see end in near future .....

Can you list up the Indian Series as well? Play is more less over there too. And If you compare these stats from India and S.A match ups...do you see some consistancy? Leave WI tour aside, any one can beat them in Test Cricket.
Yousuf needs to go, otherwise our way of play will not change. One play can effect the whole team. Slow strike rates in ODIs and pathetic fielding culture to be adopted.

[Rocking_vibes]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

And According to the PAki Coach, Pakis win the test series 2-0....Morally..He he

[saieen]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

@Captain1

what you been smokin dude? They will declare more like around the same score as in 2nd test. Kumble doesn’t have guts to declare at 275 with 80+ overs remaining.

and pakistan surely showed lots of GUTS yesterday by declaring and showing the intent of winning. bravo!!!. indians are already 1 up so a draw won’t really matter much to them. however, for moral high ground, pak played for a draw. in my view, that shows how gutless they are for not going for the kill. 1 down or 2…doesn’t really matter much. pak will come out a loser team anyways however, for lawson’s sake, a loser team with moral high ground. where they all can celebrate their defeats with gr8 joy.

[saieen]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

@Rocking_vibes

And According to the PAki Coach, Pakis win the test series 2-0…Morally..He he

he must be high on naswar shared by YK n hameed

[Captain1]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

@saieen

and pakistan surely showed lots of GUTS yesterday by declaring and showing the intent of winning. bravo!!!. indians are already 1 up so a draw won’t really matter much to them. however, for moral high ground, pak played for a draw. in my view, that shows how gutless they are for not going for the kill. 1 down or 2…doesn’t really matter much. pak will come out a loser team anyways however, for lawson’s sake, a loser team with moral high ground. where they all can celebrate their defeats with gr8 joy.

I am not going to get into useless argument with you. I am talking about your suggestion of Kumble declaring on 275 and you are dragging Pakistani team’s draw, morale etc. Can we discuss one thing at a time?

[Orpheus]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

Misbah, been impressed with this guy everytime i’ve seen him play. :k:

[pidbull]

Re: 3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore - Dec 08

what you been smokin dude? They will declare more like around the same score as in 2nd test. Kumble doesn't have guts to declare at 275 with 80+ overs remaining.

doesnt have the guts? dude if you think neutrally instead of an emotional pakistani fan and ask yourself why would they put in the effort to score quickly and even declare and set a target when pakistan has no interest to win this match?

you would have to be extremely stupid to declare at 275 with 80+ overs remaining on this flat track in the 3rd test match of a 3 match series when you are 1-0 up.

Try to think rationally instead of emotionally...