31 US special forces killed

[mukobhai]

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@IceSoul

[quote="mukobhai"]

Someone bring his guy back to reality! Sir, I strongly advise you to give up weed. Not only does it mess with your brain, it is also haram. Last I checked, the Taliban aka TTP aka Dogs gt their a**es whooped by the Pak army.

Indeed they will. And InshAllah these Taliban pigs shall be brought to book for their heinous crimes against Islam and humanity.

No Sir Secular Traitors will rot in hell for treason with Islam ALLAH and HIS RASOOL SAW

[mukobhai]

Re: 31 US special forces killed

@IceSoul

[quote="mukobhai"]

Someone bring his guy back to reality! Sir, I strongly advise you to give up weed. Not only does it mess with your brain, it is also haram. Last I checked, the Taliban aka TTP aka Dogs gt their a**es whooped by the Pak army.

Indeed they will. And InshAllah these Taliban pigs shall be brought to book for their heinous crimes against Islam and humanity.

Sir last time I checked was that Americans are begging Taliban for talks the super power of the world

[indik]

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@Med911

You have to speak to him in his language.

He is possesed by Shaitan... :)

We should pray for his recovery. Inshallah, Allah SWT will enlighten him.

certainly possesed by some evil spirit:D

[indik]

Re: 31 US special forces killed

@mukobhai

[quote="IceSoul"]

Sir last time I checked was that Americans are begging Taliban for talks the super power of the world

if it brings peace to this region you should be happy, if you are happy for humiliation of usa ? then enjoy. but never support talibani criminals, the question here is which one is lesser evil ? but you seem to be prefering bigger criminal because they follow islam? even if they kill innocents.

[mukobhai]

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@indik

certainly possesed by some evil spirit:D

I am possessed by the spirit of Islam and I don't know what is your opinion about Islam

[IceSoul]

Re: 31 US special forces killed

@mukobhai

I am possessed by the spirit of Islam and I don't know what is your opinion about Islam

Nah... I think you are just not too bright...

Really?

[indik]

Re: 31 US special forces killed

@mukobhai

I am possessed by the spirit of Islam and I don't know what is your opinion about Islam

one day god will certainly bless you with the true spirit of islam, i have very nice and tender feeling about islam i love islam of baba farid and bulle shah, i admire muslims who live with us in my multistorey apartment , in fact my best freind is muslim . i am a hindu living in delhi.

[kakaballi]

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@Med911

Currently our only evil is the brown backs fanatics. Was it the Americans who told these people to bomb schools, kidnap and murder people, and god knows what else these beards have been up to? You cant blame America when Shia, or Baralvi mosques are attacked.

WTH..... why is it that opposing American presence in the region is considered support for Taliban????

Condemning American actions here doesn't mean one supports Taliban and declaring Taliban as evil fanatics doesn't mean supporting US policies here. American presence in the region has only helped increase extremism and terrorism in my country. Thank you, but I'd like my country to defend against one evil which is local and it would be great if the other one leaves the area.

[Med911]

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WTH..... why is it that opposing American presence in the region is considered support for Taliban????

Condemning American actions here doesn't mean one supports Taliban and declaring Taliban as evil fanatics doesn't mean supporting US policies here. American presence in the region has only helped increase extremism and terrorism in my country. Thank you, but I'd like my country to defend against one evil which is local and it would be great if the other one leaves the area.

Even I condemn many American actions in Afghanistan. Although their presence is a unwelcome, it is necessary.

I dont condemn those who have an issue with American foreign policy, indeed, I count myself among them.

Where I draw the line is where self righteous pseudo Islamic scholars oppose them not for the sake of any policy reason, but simply because they are non Muslim.

Now we could argue endlessly about the pros and cons of the US being here. However, my bottom line is simple. The extremism existed and was festering for quite a while, long before the US entered. The US entered the region specifically because of this extremism. Take the Swat situation. This problem had been festering since the early 90's, well before the US invasion of Afghanistan. Did the US create the extremism which saw the destruction of god knows how many schools, murdered police men and forced promulgation of all sorts of repressive laws?
When extremists kill Christian in their churches, Shias during their matams, Ahmadis and even Barelvis, what does that have to do with the US?

Those who claim that extremism only started after the US came to Afghanistan are fooling themselves. This problem has been around for a very long time, and if anything the US presence only brought this monster to light.

And lets be honest with ourselves. The US lost 3000 people on 9/11. Do you honestly think there would be no retribution? Even the Quran teaches us that we have a right to defend ourselves, so of course the US had a right to take out their perceived enemy in Afghanistan. Unlike in Pakistan, where a few dozen Pak citizens killed here or there is ignored by the govt, the US is among those who fight when their citizens are threatened.

[kakaballi]

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@Med911

Even I condemn many American actions in Afghanistan. Although their presence is a unwelcome, it is necessary.

I dont condemn those who have an issue with American foreign policy, indeed, I count myself among them.

why label those who consider american policies in the region as taliban supporters?

Where I draw the line is where self righteous pseudo Islamic scholars oppose them not for the sake of any policy reason, but simply because they are non Muslim.

Did I oppose them because they are non-Muslim? I think many western governments are more “Islamic” in the sense of providing social justice and security to their people. It is only when it comes to their ruthless policies against ‘not-so-fortunate’ that I have issues.

Now we could argue endlessly about the pros and cons of the US being here. However, my bottom line is simple. The extremism existed and was festering for quite a while, long before the US entered. The US entered the region specifically because of this extremism. Take the Swat situation. This problem had been festering since the early 90’s, well before the US invasion of Afghanistan. Did the US create the extremism which saw the destruction of god knows how many schools, murdered police men and forced promulgation of all sorts of repressive laws?

American foreign policy is partly responsible for the extremism that existed since early 90s. I do not have a right to criticize that? The other party was Pakistani security establishment which I criticize in relevant forums.

When extremists kill Christian in their churches, Shias during their matams, Ahmadis and even Barelvis, what does that have to do with the US?

Nothing. Again you are confusing these two things. US presence here has not mitigated these evils we have in our society.

Those who claim that extremism only started after the US came to Afghanistan are fooling themselves. This problem has been around for a very long time, and if anything the US presence only brought this monster to light.

I didn’t say extremism started after US came here. It was there before and again, it has not reduced but INCREASED after US intervention.

And lets be honest with ourselves. The US lost 3000 people on 9/11. Do you honestly think there would be no retribution?

Yes, there should be retribution. How many of the people who hijacked planes on 9/11 were Afghans,Iraqis or Pakistanis? Why doesn’t USA intervene in Saudi Arabia or Egypt?

Even the Quran teaches us that we have a right to defend ourselves, so of course the US had a right to take out their perceived enemy in Afghanistan.

“Perceived Enemy”, yes. A couple of days after 9/11, USA had all the evidence after a thorough inquiry they were able to determine that Afghans are responsible? Very efficient!

Unlike in Pakistan, where a few dozen Pak citizens killed here or there is ignored by the govt, the US is among those who fight when their citizens are threatened…

or when they need stimulus for their economy and defense industry.

Why do I have to take sides? I would have appreciated American presence here if it helped save civilians, not multiply the deaths manifolds.

Would you consider these two academics as Taliban sympathizers? http://threetrilliondollarwar.org/
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.*..But U.S. military personnel are scheduled to remain in Afghanistan through the end of 2014. To date, the US “surge” in Afghanistan does not appear to have reduced violence or assisted in securing the country. If we leave 100,000 US troops in Afghanistan for the next three years, what can we hope to achieve? …

[mo293]

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WTH..... why is it that opposing American presence in the region is considered support for Taliban????

Condemning American actions here doesn't mean one supports Taliban and declaring Taliban as evil fanatics doesn't mean supporting US policies here. American presence in the region has only helped increase extremism and terrorism in my country. Thank you, but I'd like my country to defend against one evil which is local and it would be great if the other one leaves the area.

Kaka you hit the nail right on the head! There are quite a few braindead retards on this forum who will rabidly defend ameerica regardless of its crimes. Any one who condem amreeka automatically becomes a terrorist, a fanatic, a taliban and god knows what... amazing...... Almost seems like these super pro amreekan fanatis are half amreekans they must have realized their papa was a caucasian from Kensas...

[indik]

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Kaka you hit the nail right on the head! There are quite a few braindead retards on this forum who will rabidly defend ameerica regardless of its crimes. Any one who condem amreeka automatically becomes a terrorist, a fanatic, a taliban and god knows what... amazing...... Almost seems like these super pro amreekan fanatis are half amreekans they must have realized their papa was a caucasian from Kensas...

so if some body leaves you out of arguement and clueless you have right to call him retard ? you are misbehaving .

[mo293]

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so if some body leaves you out of arguement and clueless you have right to call him retard ? you are misbehaving .

Comprhension must be in short supply in the land of milk and honey, please start with kakas post and see if it makes sense and then move on. And if it doesn't then please stop wasting bandwidth.

[IceSoul]

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Kaka you hit the nail right on the head! There are quite a few braindead retards on this forum who will rabidly defend ameerica regardless of its crimes. Any one who condem amreeka automatically becomes a terrorist, a fanatic, a taliban and god knows what... amazing...... Almost seems like these super pro amreekan fanatis are half amreekans they must have realized their papa was a caucasian from Kensas...

There are also some people on this forum who are obviously hooked on crack and will defend the Taliban dogs to no end. BTW, was your Papa(s) (Taliban don't have easy access to women) a Taliban leader?

[IceSoul]

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Comprhension must be in short supply in the land of milk and honey, please start with kakas post and see if it makes sense and then move on. And if it doesn't then please stop wasting bandwidth.

Don't know about comprehension, but it seems LSD is in ample supply where you live.

[indik]

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Comprhension must be in short supply in the land of milk and honey, please start with kakas post and see if it makes sense and then move on. And if it doesn't then please stop wasting bandwidth.

o enlightend one from land of pure ! you are wasting your time and bandwidth calling one and all retard , you bother about your mental health instead of talking in bad taste .

[mo293]

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Don't know about comprehension, but it seems LSD is in ample supply where you live.

You wouldn't know what is comprehension if it was staring you in the face let alone a sane rebuttal, Ah! yes to comprhend one needs IQ and I am sure that don't exist where you live.

[mo293]

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o enlightend one from land of pure ! you are wasting your time and bandwidth calling one and all retard , you bother about your mental health instead of talking in bad taste .

Seems like I stepped on your tail, wow! could not comprhend or digest which one is it?. having trouble swallowing simple logic?

[IceSoul]

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Ah! yes to comprhend one** needs IQ and I am sure that don't exist where you live**.

You defeat your own argument. I live in Pakistan, as do you, I believe.

[mo293]

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You defeat your own argument. I live in Pakistan, as do you, I believe.

No I don't and Pak is a big place genius. And stop believing and halucinating it will get you exactly to what you are posting.