ALLAH grant JANNAH to true Muslims and the are lions of Islam fighting for the defense of Muslims but yes ALLAH will not grant JANNAH so secular traitors and followers of Abdullah bin Ubai the great enemy of Islam
The ayah as you now acknowledged begrudgingly says anyone killing muslims such as the AMerican and NAto armed forces for them place is in jahanam, so those animals 31 of them that got shot down alhamdulilah in million dollar helicopter the ayah indicates they are now going to be fuel for hellfire.
So what is point of making opposite argument they are the kuffar the ayah talks about end of discussion.
If now you want to claim the mujahideen in afghanistan who are defending their lands and people are not muslims!!! good luck explaining that one that is so far off the radar it is ludicrous.
What u say when the same u defending here kill their own brethren which they've done in the past as they r doing now ..... i'm not defending Nato or any other force nor do i see a point in trying to bring peace upon using force .... history tells that it hardly works
Well Afghanistan seems to have an "elected government" and the Forces u talk about are there with their silent consent ..... That atleast is the official part
U r claiming for some to be kuffar and others to be believers and thus entering either Jannat or Jahanum ..... well i thought this Judgement is Allahs only .... u can keep sending PPL to Paradise or Hell ..... :)
Good Luck on Judgement Day .... we'll Insha'Allah see
What u say when the same u defending here kill their own brethren which they've done in the past as they r doing now ..... i'm not defending Nato or any other force nor do i see a point in trying to bring peace upon using force .... history tells that it hardly works
Well Afghanistan seems to have an "elected government" and the Forces u talk about are there with their silent consent ..... That atleast is the official part
U r claiming for some to be kuffar and others to be believers and thus entering either Jannat or Jahanum ..... well i thought this Judgement is Allahs only .... u can keep sending PPL to Paradise or Hell ..... :)
Good Luck on Judgement Day .... we'll Insha'Allah see
I have heard some strange answers but yours wins.
the ayah already gives clear cut answer but you still not accept it, it is not me saying it, but allah(swt) in the ayah says any people killing the muslims like those american killers are destined for the hellfire!
so enough of the twisting and making excuse for the kuffar american forces they die death of ignorance they where plotting and killing muslims they not here to give out candy they here to give out bullets to kill my muslim brothers and sisters.
The redneck american seals were booted to hell and that is just great news for the world in general and Pakistan in particular. A real pity that some "enlightened moderates" are defending americans.........americans who have mercilessly butchered hundreds of thousands of people across the world and have a hand in almost all the mischief in more than 50 countries across the globe. I just hope that the US empire sinks just like USSR so that pakistanis and afghans can live in peace just like we used to pre 9-11.
I have heard some strange answers but yours wins.
the ayah already gives clear cut answer but you still not accept it, it is not me saying it, but allah(swt) in the ayah says any people killing the muslims like those american killers are destined for the hellfire!
Well look who is talking about weird answers ...... i'm questioning ur judgement of PPL being Believers & Kuffar ..... Do u get now the point ???? possibly not so i try again .....** it's not u but Allah SWT who'll judge on the Day of resurrection**
the ayah already gives clear cut answer but you still not accept it, it is not me saying it, but allah(swt) in the ayah says any people killing the muslims like those american killers are destined for the hellfire!
so enough of the twisting and making excuse for the kuffar american forces they die death of ignorance they where plotting and killing muslims they not here to give out candy they here to give out bullets to kill my muslim brothers and sisters.
may allah(swt) curse them and their supporters.
Applies equally to the murderers of innocent Muslims roaming around as Taliban. These animals are even more despicable as they murder there own lot. May Allah (swt) curse these animals and their supporters.
Well look who is talking about weird answers ...... i'm questioning ur judgement of PPL being Believers & Kuffar ..... Do u get now the point ???? possibly not so i try again .....** it's not u but Allah SWT who'll judge on the Day of resurrection**
your ignorance is outstanding, and your argument has been exposed.
if you cannot even accept the words of allah(swt) which is clear in black and white then you are a lost cause and you are just posting to be disingenuous
Applies equally to the murderers of innocent Muslims roaming around as Taliban. These animals are even more despicable as they murder there own lot. May Allah (swt) curse these animals and their supporters.
this discussion is focused on the 31 people shot down in the helicopter who where planning to kill muslims which no one doubts about may allah(swt) curse them.
as for people roaming around killing muslims ayah applies to them also of course doesn't matter who they are.
your ignorance is outstanding, and your argument has been exposed.
if you cannot even accept the words of allah(swt) which is clear in black and white then you are a lost cause and you are just posting to be disingenuous
Telling u in Bold letters that Allah SWT is the only Judge is Ignorance for u ..... Masha'Allah
you defend the american forces as not going to the hellfire for killing muslims? pathetic
you cannot even refute any of the evidences waste man
I refute ur claim or better ur judgement as to who is a kafir and who is a believer ..... For this there is only one Judge ..... go figure out .....
Now if u or the likes of u r so convinced that the American are Kuffar and fighting them and dying will lead u to Jannat then what r u doing in Paris ????
Join ur brothers to the Path to Paradise
What a waste of Time telling u umpteen times that the Ultimate Judge is Allah SWT and on Judgement day u'll find out ..... now keep up ur rant
I refute ur claim or better ur judgement as to who is a kafir and who is a believer ..... For this there is only one Judge ..... go figure out .....
Now if u or the likes of u r so convinced that the American are Kuffar and fighting them and dying will lead u to Jannat then what r u doing in Paris ????
Join ur brothers to the Path to Paradise
What a waste of Time telling u umpteen times that the Ultimate Judge is Allah SWT and on Judgement day u'll find out ..... now keep up ur rant
who is disputing allah(swt) is judge no one, the ayah is their for a reason for us to deduce evidences.
You cannot refute the ayah that is the problem with your argument no matter how many times you twist and turn.
the kuffar who kill muslims will be in the hellfire no doubt about it.
as for my location it is irrelevant to the discussion it is like saying why are you in germany and commentating on a pak forum.
secondly it is duty of the islamic armies to defend the muslims becuse they have the military hardware and training to defeat the enemies. If like in case of palestine nobody help them then it is on the people in the area to defend themselves or leave the area to save their lives, this is what the evidences indicate.
So before you try and divert the topic with shallow accusations and spurious personal attacks try answering question 1 about the ayah.
problem is you have been found out and your ego is so big you cannot even accept you are wrong on this issue, do you reject the ayah?
if no and you accept the ayah then you have no argument. Case closed!
Ah ..... that's it what i wanted so let's wait and see who comes out as kafir and who as believer
About ur Location: I think ur rage is getting to ur head :D ..... it was "Med911" who commented on ur location :D
I suggested that if u believe ur socalled bretheren are fighting a just war and are about to beat the socalled Kuffar then why u don't join them ..... now if that's any sort of accusation then learn the English Language and try again
I'm simply questioning ur powers of dividing PPL into Kuffar and Believers ..... if u don't get that well i rest my case then :D
Pulling out a Ayah from the Holy Quran and portraying certain war parties in to its interpretation in this age and day is bound to get u in a mess
The Muslim Bretheren u held so high have enough blood of Innocent PPL on their hands ..... keep calling them Believers
Ah ..... that's it what i wanted so let's wait and see who comes out as kafir and who as believer
About ur Location: I think ur rage is getting to ur head :D ..... it was "Med911" who commented on ur location :D
I suggested that if u believe ur socalled bretheren are fighting a just war and are about to beat the socalled Kuffar then why u don't join them ..... now if that's any sort of accusation then learn the English Language and try again
I'm simply questioning ur powers of dividing PPL into Kuffar and Believers ..... if u don't get that well i rest my case then :D
Pulling out a Ayah from the Holy Quran and portraying certain war parties in to its interpretation in this age and day is bound to get u in a mess
The Muslim Bretheren u held so high have enough blood of Innocent PPL on their hands ..... keep calling them Believers
Reasoning seems to be a futile exercise
for you to say the afghan not fighting just war you are completely lost you support the american shaitain that is clear so lets end this game of yours of ducking answering basic question.
are you going to deny this fact two sets of people in the world muslim and kafir ?
it's very simple do you accept this ayah below yes or no?
“If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (Forever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.” (4:93)
for you to say the afghan not fighting just war you are completely lost you support the american shaitain that is clear so lets end this game of yours of ducking answering basic question.are you going to deny this fact two sets of people in the world muslim and kafir ? it's very simple do you accept this ayah below yes or no?“If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (Forever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.” (4:93)yes or no choose one?
LOL.. Talk about dodging questions. Javed in Paris bases his entire argument on dodging questions. For all their disbelief, at least the kafirs are honest.I wonder if javed in PARIS has ever read the ayah concerning Allahs swt judgement on HYPOCRITES!?!?
Your location mon ami is relevent bcs you live of the very thing you demonize for sustenance. You critisize the kafirs yet you benefit from their generosity. You literaly bite the hand that feeds u. The french should remember the story of the man who saved t the snake and what his reward was...
LOL.. Talk about dodging questions. Javed in Paris bases his entire argument on dodging questions. For all their disbelief, at least the kafirs are honest.I wonder if javed in PARIS has ever read the ayah concerning Allahs swt judgement on HYPOCRITES!?!?
Your location mon ami is relevent bcs you live of the very thing you demonize for sustenance. You critisize the kafirs yet you benefit from their generosity. You literaly bite the hand that feeds u. The french should remember the story of the man who saved t the snake and what his reward was...