OK..let me "dumb" it down for you - there is no way to prosecute thousands of rioters for the Gujarat riots. Show me one example in history where a rioting mob has been prosecuted. The only prosecutions that take place in such cases are those of the motivators/leaders of these mobs. The Godhra verdict gives those "suspected" leaders an excuse i.e. people heard about the train burning and came on the streets on their own - we did not motivate/encourage them.
Carry on with your rants about Kashmir/Israel or even Timbuktoo if that helps you sleep well at night. I do not intend stooping down to your level to score brownie points.
Prosecute ONE person at least. Have you a single person that can be convicted? The police who watched it go down? The organizers? Anyone?
Why debate a person as ignorant as you? You have already proven how lilttle you know, and what you think you know is the product of bigoted Indian propaganda and lies.
And as far as Israel is concerned. My point stands. most Indians are incapable of understanding injustice, because they inflict it on others themselves. Particularly because you inflict your injustice on Muslims.
Dude give it up. Your system botched this Sh1t up. This is the same system that has yet to prosecute anyone for the mass murder of Sikhs, even though the number of riotous murderers ran into the thousands, yet the guy who murdered Indra Ghandi was promptly arrested and Hung.
Same logic - you cannot prosecute a mob. As for the leaders, investigations were carried out against the "suspected" leaders. Whether they bought/threatened/intimidated the witnesses, no proof was found against them and they were acquitted. And this in a country where the PM is a Sikh.
Prosecute ONE person at least. Have you a single person that can be convicted? The police who watched it go down? The organizers? Anyone?
Why debate a person as ignorant as you? You have already proven how lilttle you know, and what you think you know is the product of bigoted Indian propaganda and lies.
And as far as Israel is concerned. My point stands. most Indians are incapable of understanding injustice, because they inflict it on others themselves. Particularly because you inflict your injustice on Muslims.
Which ONE person ? Is there a name ? Is there proof ? We just cannot catch hold of someone from the streets and prosecute them to appease some people. Tell me, has anyone been prosecuted for 1947 riots yet ? For Bangladesh ?? Or were you not taught about that "injustice" in school ?
Same logic - you cannot prosecute a mob. As for the leaders, investigations were carried out against the "suspected" leaders. Whether they bought/threatened/intimidated the witnesses, no proof was found against them and they were acquitted. And this in a country where the PM is a Sikh.
Surprising then that they could convict 31 people of the Godhra fire! Yet the murder of thousands means not a single person can be convicted!
Not only the Sikh Riots, but they have yet to charge anyone for Babri Masjid, for Gujrat, or even the well documented human riots violations committed by your Army in Kashmir!
Seems non Hindus leave eveidence of their crimes everywhere for your sleuths to find, but Hindus are simlply too clever to be prosecuted!
Which ONE person ? Is there a name ? Is there proof ? We just cannot catch hold of someone from the streets and prosecute them to appease some people. Tell me, has anyone been prosecuted for 1947 riots yet ? For Bangladesh ?? Or were you not taught about that "injustice" in school ?
If they had a proper investigation im sure they could prosecute people for Bangladesh and for 1947. Atleast they could put them on trial. If they put in as much time in finding the culprits behind the Godhara fire, they could certainly prosecute those involved in Gujrat.
Obviously you are posting without knowing the facts. The convicted people were seen by gas station employees, railway station vendors etc.
And btw, Godhra is a town IN Gujarat.
So your saying that no one saw anyone commiting riots in any one of the multiple riots that have occured through out your history? You can not find and prosecute a single culprit of the thousands involved? The leaders obviously are above it all, but its as if the thousands of people who were killed, died on their own!
So your saying that no one saw anyone commiting riots in any one of the multiple riots that have occured through out your history? You can not find and prosecute a single culprit of the thousands involved? The leaders obviously are above it all, but its as if the thousands of people who were killed, died on their own!
No, but those who saw them are either dead or too scared or bought out by money and are not coming forward as witnesses. Even if they did, their testimony alone will not be enough to convict. You need other corroborating evidence which simply is not there/has not been found yet.
If you remove the "Muslim victimization" lens and look at it objectively, you might understand how difficult it is to convict a faceless mob for rioting.
No, but those who saw them are either dead or too scared or bought out by money and are not coming forward as witnesses. Even if they did, their testimony alone will not be enough to convict. You need other corroborating evidence which simply is not there/has not been found yet.
If you remove the "Muslim victimization" lens and look at it objectively, you might understand how difficult it is to convict a faceless mob for rioting.
How can anyone remove this "Muslim victimization" lens, when you history is replete with injustice against minorities.
Investigate and prosecute those that deserve to be prosecuted and then we can talk. You bias against Muslim is abundantly clear considering how openly you support your Armies crimes in Kashmir against Muslims.
No, but those who saw them are either dead or too scared or bought out by money and are not coming forward as witnesses. Even if they did, their testimony alone will not be enough to convict. You need other corroborating evidence which simply is not there/has not been found yet.
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Then your police should offer those who saw and can come foward, protection. Thats not an excuse for letting murderers go scot free. Failure to investigate makes a mockery of your entire system. And how do you know their testimony doesnt involve corroborating evidence, if you dont do the investigation?!?!?!
If you could catch even a handful of people, that may lead you to find more. Its just a matter of resolve. These arent just people who went out and set tires on fire, these people went out murdered men women and children, they raped women, decapitated people! Currently these animals are walking your street freely.. The level of barbarity of these murderers deserves investigation. But to date, not a single person has been convicted! Yet in the Godhara incident you could find 31 culprits and find them guiltty!
How can anyone remove this "Muslim victimization" lens, when you history is replete with injustice against minorities.
So you do not wish to discuss objectively ? Ok, suit yourself.
Investigate and prosecute those that deserve to be prosecuted and then we can talk. You bias against Muslim is abundantly clear considering how openly you support your Armies crimes in Kashmir against Muslims.
Remember, google is your friend so when in doubt its best to research before you respond. An investigation has been carried out against the Narendra Modi (Gujarat Chief Minister) and Maya Kodnani (another minister). Kodnani was accused of leading one of the mobs and has been arrested with judicial proceedings going on. SIT could not find any evidence against Modi - very obvious since the charge against him was circumstantial i.e dereliction of duty.
Then your police should offer those who saw and can come foward, protection. Thats not an excuse for letting murderers go scot free. Failure to investigate makes a mockery of your entire system. And how do you know their testimony doesnt involve corroborating evidence, if you dont do the investigation?!?!?!
How do you know they have not been offered protection ? How do you know that they did not decide that taking money and staying quite is better for them than being involved in a long drawn legal battle ?
So you do not wish to discuss objectively ? Ok, suit yourself.
Remember, google is your friend so when in doubt its best to research before you respond. An investigation has been carried out against the Narendra Modi (Gujarat Chief Minister) and Maya Kodnani (another minister). Kodnani was accused of leading one of the mobs and has been arrested with judicial proceedings going on. SIT could not find any evidence against Modi - very obvious since the charge against him was circumstantial i.e dereliction of duty.
When you claim that the entire Kashmir liberation movement is a sham, perpetrated by outside forces to malign and misrepresent India, then your not someone worth debating in any manner on the topic. Its just shows that your ignorant of the topic, and obviously biased. I could give you the same advice on Google, but no amount of evidence will convince you of the obvious.
Excellent. Good to see this Kadnani getting what she deserves. See, people can be investigated in riot cases. And im sure others will be also, if they investigate as thoroughly as they did the Godhara case.
How do you know they have not been offered protection ? How do you know that they did not decide that taking money and staying quite is better for them than being involved in a long drawn legal battle ?
Well if your saying that there may be those that have police protection, that implies that there are people speaking out and accusing others, but where are the trails of these people? Obviously when your police want evidence, they can get it. It seems extraordinary that of all the riots, with THOUSANDS involved, everyone who could potentially be an eye witness is silent... Amazing luck for those involved.
Amazing that in of all the riots that have occurred, with so many people involved, no one can be convicted or even accused of all the actual murderers, yet in this case they found 31 conspirators and found them guilty!
How do you know they have not been offered protection ? How do you know that they did not decide that taking money and staying quite is better for them than being involved in a long drawn legal battle ?
And the mob is not necessarily faceless either. There are images of rioters and looters.