20 Question from Ahle Sunnat Brothers

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: 20 Question from Ahle Sunnat Brothers

**Healthymind ** After having read the above, care to answer the following posted by dawa_i_dil :

@dawa_i_dil

Sayyidina Al Hasan ibn Hasan ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib, the cousin of Imam Zainul Abideen, and the senior member of the Ahly Bayt in his time who said:

• A Rafidhi (a person who rejects the Khilafa of Abu Bakr and Umar) said to him (Al Hasan ibn Hasan), “Did not the Messenger of Allah say to Ali ‘If i am Maula of someone , Ali is his Maula?’” He (Al Hasan) replied, “By Allah, if he meant the by that Amirate and rulership, he would have been more explicit to you in expressing that, just as he was explicit to you about the prayer, Zakat and Hajj to the House. He would have said to you, ‘Oh people! This is your protector after me.’ The Messenger of Allah gave the best good counsel to the people. If the business (of Imamat) had been as you say it is, and Allah and His Messenger had chosen Ali for this matter after the Prophet, then he would have been the person with the gravest error and wrong action since this would mean either that he ignored what the Messenger of Allah commanded him to do, or he would have made excuses to the people for having done so.” (Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d, Volume 5)

Lastly, let’s what Hz. Ali (ra) has to say on this matter.

In sermon 91 of Nahjul balagha, Hz. Ali (ra) is quoted having said the following:

When people decided to Swear allegiance(1) at Amir al-mu’minin’s hand after the murder of `Uthman, he said:

Leave me and seek some one else. We are facing a matter which has (several) faces and colours, which neither hearts can stand nor intelligence can accept. Clouds are hovering over the sky, and faces are not discernible. You should know that if I respond to you I would lead you as I know and would not care about whatever one may say or abuse. If you leave me then I am the same as you are. It is possible I would listen to and obey whomever you make in charge of your affairs. I am better for you as a counsellor than as chief.

http://al-islam.org/nahjul/91.htm

This completely debunks shia theory of Ali’s divine-given right to be the leader of the Ummah.

How can someone who has been divinely appointed can utter:

1. “Leave me and seek some one else.”
2. “It is possible I would listen to and obey whomever you make in charge of your affairs.”
3. I am better for you as a counsellor than as chief.

Here Hz. Ali (ra) himself is claiming that he would be better as a counsellor than as Chief (leader).

Why Hz. Ali (ra) did not remind everyone about event of Khumm Ghadeer?

Is he not duty bound since shia believe that it was Divine command to remind remind everyone about Divine Will?

Doesn’t the **sermon 91 **debunk shia theory of Ali’s divine-given right to be the leader of the Ummah?

@healtymind

At last : MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU

Why not, May Allah guide us all?

[system]

Re: 20 Question from Ahle Sunnat Brothers

Simply the excellent post again by Ibne Sadique .........

Yes brother healthmind... Ibne sadique has dragged you in a pure historical and logical path...any reply !!!!!