There were mujahideen and then there were american mujahideen, so those who did not wanted islamic shariah implemented (ahmed shah masood , dostum and co ) started fighting each other where as real mujahideen stopped from killing thier fellow muslims (moulvi younus khalis and co).
Afghan jihad was definatly a jihad as defined by shariah.
I am on the move and also dont want to change course for this thread, try starting a new thread on the topic inshallah will reply in 2/3 days
Americans and others jumped in only when they knew that afghans will win the jihad. and now when no one is supporting afghans they are now defeating bigger enemy mashallah.
Only time will tell who is following israeli/USA agenda, at present bashar is doing what pleases israelis, killing muslims.
What a travesty of truth. tsk tsk tsk.
Do you even REALIZE how PATHETIC your excuse of khariji munafiqat is here??
Why would Americans want to jump in and waste their resources, if Afghans were on the course to defeat Soviets on their own anyway?
And vice versa. Why would Afghans want to accept American aid when they knew they would win anyway?
ah. “Time will tell”. So you can’t justify this munafiqat from takfiri khawarij at this moment.
Bashar is Israel’s enemy no. 1. And kharijis are fighting Israeli/American war.
This is the same as the past when they fought the American war in Afghanistan. They accepted American aid in Afghanistan earlier, and now fight the same Americans and call it jihad. The height of munafiqat.
And they will do the same in Syria.
You need to preach this munafiqat in the guise of jihad somewhere else.
Go read my post again. Where did I specify you? I don’t know you good enough to give examples from your own posts.
But there are example of such lies: Remember what PEPSI stands for?
Screw taqiya. I know what the term ‘lie’ means, and I think I have ample examples of people lying for the sake of Islam.
lol whats the difference between mujahideen and American mujahideen, as the Americans were supporting all of them during the war. If the ones you consider are mujahideen then the others were also among them, as all of them were fighting against the same enemy. When the Afghan war ended, all these factions started fighting against each other for bigger share in Afghanistan like the country was some sort of cake. After being fed up with the situation in Afghanistan, in 96 it was ISI which brought the different factions together and created a movement called taleban. In Pakistan, the army nurtured these people to fight our wars in Afghanistan and Kashmir. When the wars ended, we were left with people who knew nothing but to fight and kill, hence they got busy within Pakistan itself.
As far as the issue of taleban in Afghanistan and Pakistan is concerned, I see it as a failed US foreign policy initiative in which our army decided to participate. We should have kept neutral in 79, and offer assistance to the refugees and all other help possible without interfering in their internal matters. But our interference there has not only created problems there but also in our country as a result. The result now is that the population of Afghanistan at large hates Pakistan, and considers us to be responsible for their woes.
As far as Syria is concerned, I don’t support the heavy handed tactics used by Bashar ul Asad against his opponents. On the other hand its very clear who are the people being armed by the Americans. Other than that I don’t have any concern with what happens there, I believe the Syrians are also reaping what they sowed with respect to their role in Lebanon’s civil war.
way too nefarious (evil- what you represent as pak patriot), you dont do that with people even if they are tribal
do you stop short of rehabilliiating the tribal people with a period of sustained peace? the actual power distribution means only pak are able to implement this. and you will still have your own pakistani problems
my overwhelming impression is suicide attacks are not allowed, but that doesnt give you the right to claim religious or moral supremacy over them. you ali syed, have a gross amount of power on your side, and obviously do not share the same environment so you be a neo group and let them meet Allah SWT as they will and you will too
why o why would you want dirty hands wanting ethnic cleansing of a whole people, the war is about imposition of religions. yours to them, and (now) theirs to you
your country is in a mess, but theres no one to fight. going around with your apaches to his mudhut killing one bens and crippling the other. blasting imrans party members car because it was under your copter
all them times athar abbass said we did it, at the time i didnt think of any other effected side either. the news said 80 dead, i dont know if they told it so but it was just a number. i wish i had the foresight
the area of their safety is not yours to start off with.
who are the people being armed? and as far as i know even bashar assad wasnt claiming americans were arming the uprising in july of this year, turkey, qatar, sa were alledged
btw every intel agency wanted credit for afghan. the channel from cia went to isi. hameed gul claimed pak wouldnt let cia anywhere near the fighters! but you saw the photo ops refer to credit taking
Same can be said about pious taleban who consider others who dont follow their satanic cult as non muslims and hence worthy of death.
I dont care which ever cult they follow, besides its them who want to force their ‘religion’ down the throats of others, its them carrying out cleansing by attacking people from other sects. I do not support ethnic cleansing of people thats why I want them to be segregated from the tribals.
No state can allow state within a state, Pakistan will and should establish their writ there if they want to survive as a country.
Another pitiful attempt to justify Talibanic massacres.
. The incident you cited involves Taliban prisoners of war. But **Taliban inflicted their massacre on innocent women and children **who were no threat to anyone.
. There are more massacres committed by Taliban than anyone else in Afghanistan.
. Taliban invoke Islam, and call their war as ‘jihad’ (naoozobillah). Therefore they are supposed to follow Islam in their war and stay away from any un Islamic immoral act. But when they commit more horrible crimes than any other party then it shows their true anti-Islam khariji face.
. Taliban have been involved in massacres repeatedly. They have neither repented nor have they shown any remorse. They will commit the same crime again if given a chance. In fact, they are doing the same in Pakistan presently where they kill innocent people every other day.
