zinah

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*Originally posted by armughal: *
and the big question is....
if those guys and gals had any concern for what Islam says why wud they being doing it in the first place....

a man and woman wre caught making love in a car....
the case was postponed till after two months and they bot got married....
hence their lawyer argued that they r now a married couple and shud not be punished....
the judge fined the man 50 dinars (roughly 130 dollars) and the woman 100 dinars for obscene acts in public....
thats in a muslim country (bahrain).... imagine that!!!!
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y was the lady fined twice the amount of the gent?

Sheraz, you started this topic. So what exactly is zinah??? Having sexual intercourse???

cscraja:
a) If A had sex with B before marriage, both are now 'fornicators'. And, if a fornicator is for a fornicatoress, what stops A & B from getting married?

-Exactly my point!

mad:
Suppose you have avoided sex before marriage, then get married, and later your wife / husband admits that she / he has had sex before marriage with someone else. Does this mean that you rmarriage to her / him is invalidated, since you would be a person of purity and your spouse would be one of impurity?

-Good question

zinah means having sex with a person you are not married to..thats what i think it means

i believe its the punishment from God that if you sleep with the person before marriage then u will never be able to marry them even if you want to..that is tough punishment i believe

now if you divorce ur spouse, there is still a way that you can remarry that person..but in this case there is just no way..according to both molvis..maybe i will ask some scholer and ask them for the references

Well....... is it having sexual intercourse??? Sex has many many many categories, isnt it?

Yeah, I still cant understand how it could be (That a to-be- married couple having sex together are haram on each other) cz long time ago I read something from a scholar that if that happens and they ask Allah's forgiveness, it's a good thing if they marry. Well, I dont know. I think these mullahs on Alim online probably said so to discourage thinking of the sort that it is "okay" for an unmarried couple to live together before marriage. Otherwise, I cant see why they say this without any reference from Quran.

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*Originally posted by Sheraz CT: *
zinah means having sex with a person you are not married to..thats what i think it means

i believe its the punishment from God that if you sleep with the person before marriage then u will never be able to marry them even if you want to..that is tough punishment i believe

now if you divorce ur spouse, there is still a way that you can remarry that person..but in this case there is just no way..according to both molvis..maybe i will ask some scholer and ask them for the references
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*Originally posted by TheNewWannaBe: *
Otherwise, I cant see why they say this without any reference from Quran.

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just mentioning in case u dint know already....
Islamic Shari'a has sources other than the Quran to formulate the laws....

ASALAMU ALAIKUM WELL KEEP LOOKIN..... ALLAH BLESS YOU PEOPLE

Re: zinah

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*Originally posted by Sheraz CT: *
i was watching Alim online and this guy called to say he has been living with this girl and now they want to get married. both shia and sunni molvis said that if you had sex with the person before marrying them, you can never marry them
now i was thinkin that how many muslim couples go out before shadi and some even lose their virginity at the spur of the moment..they probably don't even realize that according to Islam, their partner is haram for them

so young guys and gals...if u are in love and wanna marry the person..please don't hit the home run before shadi..but if u dont care bout islam at all phir jitnay maarnay hain maartay raho i guess
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plz do not male Aalim Online a reference.

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