Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
^good points rw
Generals are the last line of defense between us the Pakistanis turning into basket case Afghanis, Somalis, Yemenis, Sierra leonis, Darfuries and the list goes on.
And still we have thankless tribals ready to disrespect the institution called Pak army.
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
Zardari violated the constitution. That is an open fact. He got called on it and had to bail on his position. He reminds me more of a weasel than a man of integrity and honor - which is what a President should be.
^ But then even some of these FA-fail generals appear to have more intellect than some of the elected jokers ....
BTW, who elects those jokers?
^ But then even some of these FA-fail generals appear to have more intellect than some of the elected jokers like Dasti, Aashiq Awan, Wasi Zafar, Jahangir Badar, Rehman Malik, Fazlur Rahman's brother - the list is endless - and the worst of them all Raja Riaz Halwai (btw yeh kya namoona hai?)
Besides times have changed. You may join Kakul etc. after clearing FA but then you have to pass different courses at various stages of your training. These days every senior army officer is a graduate of either National Defence College, Command and Staff College Quetta or equivalent, otherwise you won't progress up thru the ranks. COAS Kiyani and CJCSC Tariq Majid both have a masters in war studies. Most of your generals these days can express themselves better than your average politcian.... period
yeah... Ayub, Yahya the drunkard, Zia the murderer and Musharraf the traitor were real intellectuals eh... wah jee wah... kia baat hay.
that rapist Captain Hammad was a real intellectual too eh. a son of the soil. what a fine orator he was too. showed that two bit civilian wh0re doctor Shazia what her auqaat was, didn't he. well done captain sahib. repeating what your kind did in Bangladesh in Pakistan now. son of the soil indeed.
the wife, children and parents of Hammad Raza (SC registrar) also want to know why the generals in their infinite wisdom thought it was best to kill that honest, upright civil servant who was also an only child of his aging parents? was it in national interest to kill the man? or was it strategic depth this time?
first of all, please don't teach me how this sht works. out of every 10 ppl who join the army, 7 do it because they don't have the marks to do anything else, the other 3 might join because they have a real passion for serving the country through the army. so, if the majority of idiots who join the army join it because they didn't have the intellectual capacity to do anything else, then I have to question why is it that these braindead idiots one day get to rule the country? idiots who couldn't get an 80 in their FSc and couldn't make it to a single decent college rush to Kakul. explains why our generals are so bloody stupid. the idiots I grew up with will one day become generals. and if they become the next Musharraf/Zia/Ayub, then Pakistan ka khuda haafiz.
and as far as these masters degrees are concerned... are these the masters degrees that allowed these great generals and strategists come up with master plans like Kargil? is this where they teach them "strategic depth" and the need to raise snakes like Fazulllah, Baitullah, Mullah Sufi, etc? is that what teaches them to kidnap Baloch ppl? do they teach them to rape and kill in these degrees?
if it is, then la'anat hay in masters degrees per aur in kay colleges par jinhon nay mulk ka baira gharaq kar dia.
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DG ISPR Major General Athar Abbas for instance looks far more intelligent and samajhdar than your average politician
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if giving incoherent statements and spreading lies is intelligence and samajhdari then, Athar Abbas is a fking rocket surgeon.
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I am also against military rule but it is also a fact that the vast majority of our politicians (read crooks) are illiterate, incompetent and extremely corrupt
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please don't be a hypocrite. it's become fashionable for supporters of and apologists for bashtards like Musharraf to say things like that. oh jee I'm against army rule BUT... and it is this BUT that has destroyed this country.
say that you support FA fail generals to take over. don't hide. please don't be shy. are you also a card carrying member of Musharraf's facebook party?
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
I am surprised how a simple discussion on the current situation can involve the past 60 years of Pakistan's history like the gentleman posted above. Someone is definitely off his rocker.
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
Samb - Well said. Until these stupid and corrupt general's become professional soldiers, rather than the power hungry politcians they are, Pakistan will be doomed.
Thanks for sharing
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
Realdeal good to realise that Zardari is a powerhungry politican that is responsible for the current mess we are in.
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
@Samb......wow man
Realdeal good to realise that Zardari is a powerhungry politican that is responsible for the current mess we are in.
Who says Zardari is the perfect man?
Army has been in direct and indirect power since 1947. Zardari has been in power for 2 yrs.
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
Snookums a crook is a crook. Doesn't matter if he wears a uniform or puts his dead wife's picture on a podium. Do you agree?
Re: Zardari got egg on face: Government accepts CJ’s recommendations for SC.
Hobbies of Zardari include, Horse Farming, Sheep Farming and getting eggs on the face..i am sure zardari will make another blunder soon, he is least worried about the people of Pakistan and is busy creating opportunities to get eggs for his face.. i don't know when, but i am sure Zardari and CO won't let us wait for too long...
Incompetency at its best..
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yeah... Ayub, Yahya the drunkard, Zia the murderer and Musharraf the traitor were real intellectuals eh... wah jee wah... kia baat hay.
that rapist Captain Hammad was a real intellectual too eh. a son of the soil. what a fine orator he was too. showed that two bit civilian wh0re doctor Shazia what her auqaat was, didn't he. well done captain sahib. repeating what your kind did in Bangladesh in Pakistan now. son of the soil indeed.
the wife, children and parents of Hammad Raza (SC registrar) also want to know why the generals in their infinite wisdom thought it was best to kill that honest, upright civil servant who was also an only child of his aging parents? was it in national interest to kill the man? or was it strategic depth this time?
first of all, please don't teach me how this sht works. out of every 10 ppl who join the army, 7 do it because they don't have the marks to do anything else, the other 3 might join because they have a real passion for serving the country through the army. so, if the majority of idiots who join the army join it because they didn't have the intellectual capacity to do anything else, then I have to question why is it that these braindead idiots one day get to rule the country? idiots who couldn't get an 80 in their FSc and couldn't make it to a single decent college rush to Kakul. explains why our generals are so bloody stupid. the idiots I grew up with will one day become generals. and if they become the next Musharraf/Zia/Ayub, then Pakistan ka khuda haafiz.
and as far as these masters degrees are concerned... are these the masters degrees that allowed these great generals and strategists come up with master plans like Kargil? is this where they teach them "strategic depth" and the need to raise snakes like Fazulllah, Baitullah, Mullah Sufi, etc? is that what teaches them to kidnap Baloch ppl? do they teach them to rape and kill in these degrees?
if it is, then la'anat hay in masters degrees per aur in kay colleges par jinhon nay mulk ka baira gharaq kar dia.
if giving incoherent statements and spreading lies is intelligence and samajhdari then, Athar Abbas is a fking rocket surgeon.
please don't be a hypocrite. it's become fashionable for supporters of and apologists for bashtards like Musharraf to say things like that. oh jee I'm against army rule BUT... and it is this BUT that has destroyed this country.
say that you support FA fail generals to take over. don't hide. please don't be shy. are you also a card carrying member of Musharraf's facebook party?
Samb yaar aap rapists ko yahan kya ley aaye? Who is supporting any rapists here? A crime is a crime regardless of the background of the culprit and I condemn all such acts.
I do not support Musharraf or military rule or come from a military background although I studied at Cadet College Hasan Abdal in the late 80s hence know a thing or two about the military!
While it is true that the cream of students does not join the military, it is the same everywhere (incl. Britain and US where most bright students still take up professional subjects such as medicine, law, economics or engineering) and not exclusive to Pakistan.
btw most bright people do not join politics either! Most of our parliamentarians have been to very ordinary schools and it shows in how they conduct themselves in public. They lack basic manners and etiquettes. Politics is treated like family business in Pakistan.
But we must also not belittle military training. These days you simply won't get promoted beyond the rank of colonel or brigadier unless you are a graduate of either National Defence College, Islamabad (NDC, formerly in Rawal Pindi) or Command and Staff College Quetta or equivalent. This was actually made a requirement in the 80s by Zia. I know this because one of my uncles (a retired civil-servant) had to do NDC or equivalent in the mid-80s in order to get promoted above grade-20. And they do have medical and engineering corps in the military. Not everyone is stupid!
I do not support any particular party at the moment although I have supported IK in the past (and might still vote for him in 2013) but some of his political views and affiliations over the years have left me a little confused to say the least