Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi's role confirmed? [merged]

DAWN.COM | World | Pakistan under pressure to extradite Lakhvi

WASHINGTON: Pakistan faces tremendous pressure from the United States to extradite Zaki al-Rahman Lakhvi, the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai terror attacks, to India, US and diplomatic sources told Dawn.
The Americans are believed to have given Pakistan a taped conversation Lakhvi allegedly had with the gunmen involved in the Mumbai attacks.
Diplomatic sources in Washington said that American audio experts had checked the tape and had concluded that it was genuine and that the speaker indeed was Lakhvi.
It is, however, not clear if the Americans recorded the conversation using their own surveillance methods or received the tape from the Indians who have blamed Lakhvi right from the beginning.
On December 4, less than a week after the attacks, Indian officials told reporters in New Delhi they believed Lakhvi and Yusuf Muzammil had masterminded the Mumbai operation.
They identified both as top leaders of the Lashkar-i-Taiba group, which India claimed was behind this and other terrorist attacks on its soil.
On December 8, Pakistani security officials told media that they had arrested Lakhvi and some of his top lieutenants but they also said that all suspects would be tried in Pakistan and will not be handed over to India.
But officials in both New Delhi and Washington said they will not be satisfied unless Islamabad followed up by prosecuting those arrested and taking further action against other militant groups allegedly linked to attacks in Indian.
Later, India urged Pakistan to hand over Lakhvi to Indian authorities along with at least two other suspects.
Until this week, US officials had not given a statement regarding the issue but Lakhvi’s reported conversation with the gunmen appeared to have changed their minds.
Reports in the US media noted that Lakhvi came from the same area as Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the gunman arrested in Mumbai and identified by Indian authorities as one of the 10 terrorists.
Kasab’s village Faridkot is near Lakha, the ancestral village of the Lakhvis who are a prominent religious family in Punjab.
Officials in Islamabad, however, appeared reluctant to accept the intercepts of Lakhvi’s alleged confession provided to them by American and British intelligence agencies as authentic.
The intercepts allegedly showed Lakhvi having cell-phone conversations with the gunmen holed up inside Mumbai’s Taj hotel during the 60-hour siege.
But officials in Pakistan said that Kasab’s confession and other evidences were inadmissible in court. They said that since the confessions had been obtained under severe pressure by the Indians, this could not be admissible in judicial process. They have insisted that the information provided would not stand scrutiny in any court.
There, however, appears to be a serious difference of opinion between Islamabad and the Pakistan Embassy in Washington over the issue.
While Islamabad was reluctant to accept the evidence as authentic, the embassy insisted that it’s authentic and that the Pakistani authorities now needed to take steps to satisfy the international community.

Re: Will Lakhvi be extradited ? Is this proof enough of his involvement ?

Extradition is not gonna happen, Pakistan has already said that.

Extradition may not happen to India but can happen to US as its citizens are among the killed ones...

Why is this flip flop. Now NSA Durrani says that Kasab could be Pakistani!

New Delhi: Pakistan on Tuesday for the first time seems to have admitted that its citizens could be involved in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks.

Pakistan’s National Security Advisor Mahmud Ali Durrani has said he cannot rule out that Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab, the lone terrorist captured alive during the Mumbai terror attacks, is of Pakistani nationality.

Mumbai attackers could be Pakistanis: Pak NSA

Durrani made the admission speaking to CNN-IBN’s Deputy Foreign Affairs Editor Suhasini Haidar.

When asked if some of the Mumbai attackers including Kasab could from Pakistan, Durrani replied, “Could be. I am not saying more than that because we don’t have… I hate to say this we don’t have proof.”

But he also said that India should let the investigations into the attacks finish first.

Durrani, however, added that till now there is no evidence of involvement of Pakistan and also stressed that Pakistan was also a victim of terror just like India.

Suhasini reports that there seems to be a general softening of Pakistani stand on the Mumbai terror attacks and points out that the war rhetoric too has come down.

Durrani said in the interview that Pakistani government was looking at the letter written by Kasab in which he requested consular access, and also wanted to meet the Pakistani High Commissioner in India.

Kasab has also asked for for legal aid from Pakistan in the same letter.

Durrani said Pakistan was looking at the letter from Kasab and trying to formulate its response.

Pakistan has been till now denying that there was any Pakistani link to Mumbai terror attacks.

Earlier, on Sunday (December 28) a Pakistani official had hinted that they may seek consular access to Kasab to determine if he is a Pakistani.

Re: Will Lakhvi be extradited ? Is this proof enough of his involvement ?

Extradition to US could be a possibility but i don't see US pushing on this issue any time soon.

Great news. :k:

Looks like we are past the stage of “where is the evidence”. That is some progress !!

? Could be is an admission of crime?

One way ticket to Guantanamo Bay...

Did US indicate any interest? or is it your imagination?

How long will Pakistanis deny that there was Pakistan’s involvement in Mumbai attacks. There are still who believe that India planned these attacks and ATS chief Karkare was killed by Hindu extremists.

Lashkar commander Zarar Shah admits Lashkar-e-Taiba was involved in Mumbai attacks. NSA Durrani admits that Kasab was Pakistani.

**Pakistan’s Probe Finds Local Links To Attacks On Mumbai **

By ZAHID HUSSAIN

ISLAMABAD – Pakistan’s own investigation of terror attacks in Mumbai has begun to show substantive links between the 10 gunmen and an Islamic militant group that its powerful spy agency spent years supporting, say people with knowledge of the probe.

At least one top leader of militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, or “Army of the Pure,” captured in a raid earlier this month in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, has confessed the group’s involvement in the attack as India and the U.S. have alleged, according to a senior Pakistani security official.

The disclosure could add new international pressure on Pakistan to accept that the attacks, which left 171 dead in India, originated within its borders and to prosecute or extradite the suspects. That raises difficult and potentially destabilizing issues for the country’s new civilian government, its military and the spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence – which is conducting interrogations of militants it once cultivated as partners.

Pakistan’s Probe Finds Local Links To Attacks On Mumbai - WSJ.com

Pakistani security officials say a top Lashkar commander, Zarar Shah, has admitted a role in the Mumbai attack during interrogation, according to the security official, who declined to be identified discussing the investigation. “He is singing,” the security official said of Mr. Shah. The admission, the official said, is backed up by U.S. intercepts of a phone call between Mr. Shah and one of the attackers at the Taj Mahal Palace & Tower, the site of a 60-hour confrontation with Indian security forces.

A second person familiar with the investigation said Mr. Shah told Pakistani interrogators that he was one of the key planners of the operation, and that he spoke with the attackers during the rampage to give them advice and keep them focused.

The person said Mr. Shah had implicated other Lashkar members, and had broadly confirmed the story told by the sole captured gunman to Indian investigators – that the 10 assailants trained in Pakistan’s part of Kashmir and then went by boat from Karachi to Mumbai. Mr. Shah said the attackers also spent at least a few weeks in Karachi, a crowded Arabian Sea port, training in urban combat to hone skills they would use in their assault.
Mr. Shah was picked up along with fellow Lashkar commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi during the military camp raids in Kashmir.

The Mumbai attacks have stoked tensions in India and Pakistan, producing allegations and counterallegations that have both countries headed toward conflict. Pakistan recently redeployed some troops from the fight against Islamic militants toward the Indian border, and India warned its citizens not to travel to Pakistan. India and Pakistan, both nuclear-armed, have fought three wars since their independence in 1947.

The probe also is stress-testing an uncomfortable shift under way at Pakistan’s spy agency – and the government – since the election of civilian leadership replacing the military-led regime earlier this year. Military and intelligence officials acknowledge they have long seen India as their primary enemy and Islamist extremists such as Lashkar as allies. But now the ISI is in the midst of being revamped, and its ranks purged of those seen as too soft on Islamic militants.

That revamp and the Mumbai attacks are in turn putting pressure on the civilian leadership, which risks a backlash among the population – and among elements of ISI and the military – if it is too accommodating to India. “The ISI can make or break any regime in Pakistan,” said retired Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, a former army chief. “Don’t fight the ISI.”

The delicate politics of the Mumbai investigation have given the spy agency renewed sway just when the government was trying to limit its influence. A Western diplomat said the question now is what Pakistan will do with the evidence it is developing.

The big fear in the West and India is a repeat of what happened after a 2001 attack on India’s parliament, which led to the ban on Lashkar. Top militant leaders were arrested only to be released months later. Lashkar and other groups continued to operate openly, even though formal ISI connections were scaled back or closed, the diplomat said.

“They’ve got the guys. They have the confessions. What do they do now?” the diplomat said. “We need to see that this is more than a show. We want to see the entire infrastructure of terror dismantled. There needs to be real prosecutions this time.”

A spokesman for new president Asif Ali Zardari, Farhatullah Babar, said Tuesday that he wasn’t aware of the Pakistani investigation yet producing any links between Lashkar militants and the Mumbai attacks. “The Interior Ministry has already stated that the government of Pakistan has not been furnished with any evidence,” he said.

The Pakistani security official cautioned that the investigation is still in early stages and a more full picture could emerge once India decides to share more information. Pakistani authorities didn’t have evidence that Lashkar was involved in the attacks before the militants’ arrest in Kashmir, the security official said; they were captured based only on initial guidance from U.S and British authorities.

Vishnu Prakash, a spokesman for India’s Foreign Ministry, said in a telephone interview that all India’s evidence will be shared with Pakistan soon, when the investigation is complete. But Mr. Prakash expressed doubt Pakistan would act, based on what he said was its investigative track record: “Whenever actionable intelligence is given, our friends make sure it is neutralized, and then it cannot be acted upon,” he said.

In the nearly four months since Mr. Zardari was elected, civilian and military leaders have been working to remake the role the ISI plays in the country’s affairs, and take aim at an intelligence apparatus that diplomats and analysts suspect still hasn’t fully severed links to extremist groups such as Lashkar.
New agency chief Lt. General Ahmed Shuja Pasha and army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani have flushed out top and mid-level hard-liners associated with the agency’s murky past dealings with terrorist organizations. Two deputies under Gen. Pasha’s predecessor were removed and dozens of other lower-level officials sacked. The agency’s political cell, which monitored the country’s own politicians and parties and helped make it a political kingmaker, has been closed, its operatives dispersed through the agency.

In a televised remarks Tuesday, Pakistan’s foreign minister, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, said Pakistan offered to send a high-level delegation to New Delhi to help investigate the Mumbai attacks.

“Traditionally there has been a sort of disconnect between the political leadership and the leadership of the security establishment,” said Mr. Babar, the spokesman for Mr. Zardari. Under the new regime, he said, “There is harmony.”

There also have been increasing tensions. Mr. Zardari – who replaced his wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, as their party’s candidate to lead the country after her assassination last year – has faced frequent reminders that the military’s step back from political control has its limits, and could be reversed.

Mr. Zardari initially offered to send Gen. Pasha himself to aid India’s investigation into the Mumbai attacks, then had to rescind it when the military objected. He surprised the military this month by announcing Pakistan would never hit India with a first-strike nuclear attack.

Two months before his election, Mr. Zardari as party chief mounted an attempt to wrest the control of the ISI from the military and place it under a close political adviser. Word spread through a wedding attended by Pakistan’s top army brass. “I was certainly not consulted,” a grim-faced Gen. Kayani told another guest. Top army officials started working the phones. The next day, July 27, the government announced that its original notice had been “misinterpreted.” It later withdrew the notice entirely.

ISI’s headquarters, surrounded by manicured lawns and fountains, sits behind unmarked walls and armed checkpoints in the heart of Islamabad. Founded in 1948, the ISI moved into politics during Pakistan’s military governments of the 1960s. It formally established its political cell under a civilian prime minister – Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, father of Mr. Zardari’s murdered wife. But over the years the spy chiefs – the agency leadership is all active military officers – often proved more loyal to the military than the government.

During the Soviet Union’s occupation of neighboring Afghanistan in the 1980s, Pakistan’s spies became partners with the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, which cultivated the same insurgent groups at the time. In the 1990s, the ISI helped fashion Lashkar into one of the most potent Islamic militant forces battling Indian troops in Kashmir.

The Indian government blamed the ISI for helping plot the 1993 Mumbai bombings, which killed hundreds of people. The agency and Pakistan government still deny ISI involvement. The ISI purged scores of extremist officers from its ranks. But Pakistan continued to support anti-India militants in Kashmir and the ISI maintained extensive links to the Taliban, according to Western and Indian security officials. Current and former ISI officials acknowledge the ISI maintained extensive links to the Taliban.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the U.S., Pakistan’s military-led government signed on as an ally in the global battle against Islamic terrorism, and the ISI helped coalition forces rout the Taliban. According to a former ISI officer, hundreds of ISI operatives involved with the Afghan cell were removed from ISI.
In recent years, Lashkar and other groups have turned to waging global violence against largely civilian targets, putting Pakistan under rising pressure from its allies and complicating peace negotiations with India. The groups also are striking targets within Pakistan. They have become, said the ISI official, “a monster we’ve created that we can’t put back in the box.”

Pakistan banned Lashkar under pressure from the U.S. and India in 2002 but did little to curtail its activities until earlier this month, when it enforced a new United Nations resolution banning its charitable front, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, and arrested senior leaders of both organizations.

The current revamp of the ISI began in September when President Zardari and Gen. Kayani replaced the agency’s chief, Lt. General Nadeem Taj, who was seen as not aggressive enough toward militants. The new chief, Gen. Pasha, has overseen major offensives against al Qaeda-supported militants in Pakistan’s tribal regions.

Only Indian media and Indians translate “could be” as “admits” :hehe:

LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

Despite all the “war hysteria” created by the Pakistani establishment, the International pressure seems to be mounting up. How much more evidence does the Pakistan government need before it will act ?

New Delhi: Pakistan has finally admitted the Lashkar-e-Toiba was behind the Mumbai terror attacks.

Even though there is no official confirmation but Pakistani Prime Ministers Office has told CNN-IBN that Lashkar-e-Toiba planned and executed 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks.

However, New Delhi is cautious about the admission with sources in the Ministry of External Affairs saying that India is looking for more tangible action.

The sources in Pakistani PMO said that two Lashkar operatives Zaik-ur Rehman Lakhvi and Zarar Shah have confessed to planning and executing Mumbai attacks.

Lakhvi and Shah had been picked up from a Lashkar camp near Muzaffarabad early in December. Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani admitted that both Lakhvi and Shah had been detained but denied it subsequently.

Now a Wall Street Journal report quotes Pakistani security officials as saying that Shah, who heads the technology wing of the Lashkar-e-Toiba, has confessed to being one of the key planners of the 26/11 attacks.

He reportedly admitted to advising and directing the terrorists in Mumbai.

The confessions were backed by US intercepts of a phone call between Shah and one of the terrorists at the Taj Hotel in Mumbai

Earlier Pakistan’s National Security Adviser Mahmud Ali Durrani hinted at the possibility of a Pakistani role to the Mumbai attacks.

“Could be…could be. I am not saying more than that because we don’t have… I hate to say this we don’t have proof,” Durrani told CNN-IBN on Tuesday.

Now the Indian Government says there is enough evidence for Pakistan to act upon.

“What more evidence does Pakistan require than the statement of the captured terrorist and his father,” Union Home Minister P Chidambaram said.

Minister of State for External Affairs Anand Sharma said, “Under the international law it is the obligation of the State of Pakistan to take action after individuals have been named. There is overwhelming evidence. We hope that the pressure of international committee will continue.”

India will prefer to wait for a formal official word from Islamabad on Lakhvi and Shah. Until then it will continue to leverage diplomatic pressures on Pakistan.

LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

:slight_smile:
Looks like the news bulletin of Zee News!! :daaghu1: Full of drawingroom-made stories and crap!

Re: LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

Someone is spening way too much energy searching google news.

Come out of denial mode, dude. Even Pak officials are singing the same tune now…

Pakistani security officials say a top Lashkar commander, Zarar Shah, has admitted a role in the Mumbai attack during interrogation, according to the security official, who declined to be identified discussing the investigation. “He is singing,” the security official said of Mr. Shah. The admission, the official said, is backed up by U.S. intercepts of a phone call between Mr. Shah and one of the attackers at the Taj Mahal Palace & Tower, the site of a 60-hour confrontation with Indian security forces.

A second person familiar with the investigation said Mr. Shah told Pakistani interrogators that he was one of the key planners of the operation, and that he spoke with the attackers during the rampage to give them advice and keep them focused.

The person said Mr. Shah had implicated other Lashkar members, and had broadly confirmed the story told by the sole captured gunman to Indian investigators – that the 10 assailants trained in Pakistan’s part of Kashmir and then went by boat from Karachi to Mumbai. Mr. Shah said the attackers also spent at least a few weeks in Karachi, a crowded Arabian Sea port, training in urban combat to hone skills they would use in their assault.

Pakistan’s Probe Finds Local Links To Attacks On Mumbai - WSJ.com

Re: LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

^This link has been beaten too much by you since yesterday.

Un-named officials, a father that is not located, a letter to HC same drum being beaten over and over.

Re: LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

^^ Nice attempt at subterfuge. But this is a WSJ report, and is independent of Indian media.

**Hopefully this “link” is more believable considering that its from a Pakistani newpaper - **

Even the Pak diplomat in US thinks the evidence is authentic…

Pakistan under pressure to extradite Lakhvi -DAWN - Top Stories; December 31, 2008

*There, however, appears to be a serious difference of opinion between Islamabad and the Pakistan Embassy in Washington over the issue.

While Islamabad was reluctant to accept the evidence as authentic, **the embassy insisted that it’s authentic and that the Pakistani authorities now needed to take steps to satisfy the international community.


Re: LeT role in 26/11 confirmed, India asks Pak to act

^And yeah seen this one too from you or was it saregamapa

Now what exactly do you want?

JuD has been banned. The people accused by India have been taken in custody and investigation is ongoing. What else you want, allow India to have an aerial strike? not gonna happen or do you want sarabjeet Singh released?

Punjabee in USA bhaijan. Is there a deadline given by India?