If you are talking about a picture of a uncircumcised penis as proof of indian involvement…then you are even more desperate than I thought…
...... obviously you have no idea as every weapon TTP use are from india, ....
Care to list the "every weapon TTP is getting" from India?
Why do you make these unsubstantiated statements? Don't you know that if had found a single weapon from India, we would have threatened Delhi with direct war? Where do you get all this? From Islamists websites?
Oh by the way we have seen the joke pictures about 4 mortar shells.
............ .... why dont you then explain to me how many bomb blasts have happened in pakistan from 1996 when taliban came to power to 9/11 ...
That's a fair question.
Bomb blasts and attacking public places are the weapon of choice for Arab and Islamists terrorists. Taliban picked it up whenever it was needed. You see more suicide attacks in Pak because that's what Talib's ARab masters are asking them to do.
Talbhianics used bombs, guns, etc against people and places. From Afghan days, Talbhiana regime has been brutal to the weak sections of the society. That means poor, the minorities, and above all women.
Obviously you are in love with Talibs for one reason or the other. So none of this will help you and you will continue doing LOLs until the same Talib catch you.
as before 9/11 there was peace here when afgan taliban was in power, the problem lies with raw backed TTP which needs to be wiped out. which zaid hamid has made clear plently of times, so the confusion obviously comes when you make up your mind without watching his programes.
either you were 4 year old before 9 11 or complete ignorant..
who used to do mosque bombings on almost weekly basis one of the main characters Lashkar e jhangvi and where they were based and getting support at that time Taliban in afghanistan,,, therefore you need to learn terrorism was there and mosque bombings were there its just new introduction of suicide bombings that had been added after 9 11.
furthermore if you say afghani taliban are good guys then i want to ask do you want mulla umer to lead pakistan as well if no then Shut up we dont need to support afghani taliban for afghanistan as well if something aint good for us then it aint good for the neighbour as well.
also we need to ruthlessly suppress any idea/mentality that a group of thugs can bring down a state we had started with TTP and we should end it with Afghani taliban unless it is done we wont be having peace in pakistan or in the region.
I cant even belive we are discussing this, anyone who thinks india is not behind TTP seriously needs to get lessons on geo-politics and its a shame that pakistanis can think this.
india not only supports and funds ttp, they created it,
saying india is not behind ttp is not only stupid but also retarded.
army has allready presented the indian weapons during the operation in waziristan and now its complettly and utterly stupid to say india is not behind RAW, there is soo much proof of this, anyway here are many sources.
While the U.S. media has frequently reported on Pakistani ties to jihadi elements launching attacks in Afghanistan, it has less often mentioned that India supports insurgent forces attacking Pakistan, the former intelligence official said. “The Indians are up to their necks in supporting the Taliban against the Pakistani government in Afghanistan and Pakistan,” the former intelligence official who served in both countries said. “The same anti-Pakistani forces in Afghanistan also shooting at American soldiers are getting support from India. India should close its diplomatic establishments in Afghanistan and get the Christ out of there.”
Can the intel community defuse India-Pakistan tensions? | The Cable
Musharraf says Afghan intelligence under Indian influence
Musharraf says Afghan intelligence under Indian influence | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
“We have concrete evidence of Indian involvement,” says Musharraf
“I have given documentary evidence of Indian role in Afghanistan from top to bottom here,” says musharraf
**Taliban backed by RAW **
‘Taliban backed by RAW trained Wah bombers’ -DAWN - National; August 26, 2008](http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/26/nat9.htm)
Former president Pervez Musharraf said on Sunday that India had been an accomplice in terrorist activities in Pakistan
India involved in terror acts in Pakistan; Musharraf - Pakistan Defence Forum
Indian elements involved in terrorism - Musharraf
Indian elements involved in terrorism - Musharraf: Humsurfer
Pakistan reviews Indian ties to terrorism
Pakistani military forces had confiscated weapons in the volatile tribal regions along the border with Afghanistan that he said were manufactured in India.
Pakistan reviews Indian ties to terrorism - UPI.com
India promotes terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan
Four India Trucks Carrying Arms Caught: Malik
Link: Four India trucks carrying arms caught: Malik - GEO.tv
“India is part of the problem” says Muharraf
Pakistans Ex-Präsident Musharraf: “Indien ist Teil des Problems” - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik
**“RAW in Swat Valley has its fingers in the game, I know,” **said the former army and head of state -
India fuelling terrorism in Pakistan: Qureshi
India fuelling terrorism in Pakistan: Qureshi | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
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Indian terrorism against Pakistan: National Assembly takes note The Dawn
India sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan: Malik
Read more: India sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan, alleges Rehman Malik
India sponsoring terrorism, says Pakistan
India sponsoring terrorism, says Pakistan .:. newkerala.com Online News -135667
Indian RAW agents confess to supporting TTP terrorist attacks on Pakistan
Indian RAW agents confess to supporting TTP terrorist attacks on Pakistan Pakistan Ledger| Intellibriefs | Defense Analysis| ?? ??? ???| ??? ??? | -??? ??? ??? ??? ?? ???.???
sorry dude but the blasts are happening because of indian backed ttp not arabs or talibs, infact the real taliban led by mullah omar has warned ttp to back off from pakistan and put a fatwa on them for fighting pakistan, so you post doesnt make sense.
the complete absurd statements of talibans using bombs and guns againt people and places in afgan days come from only stupid sources like cnn and fox, it matters how the people lived and they all loved it and want those days back, there was peace there, no crime and no drugs, which today has all sky rocketed since american invasion.
i am not in love with them i just belive in facts and you seem to belive in cnn and have no understanding of geo-politics at all.
^^
Shoaib yara!
Cut and paste is easy. Just read a bit too. Here is the latest on the “Indian hand in Talibhianic @rse”.
No one can deny Indians are our enemies. But so are the Islamists.
We know Indians and we can tackle them at a reasonable level.
However Islamists are attacking us from our mosques and madrassahs, our homes and markets.
All in the name of our religion. And this is much harder nut to crack.
Haven’t you heard?
----- ghar ka bhadi lanka dhai?
It is time to quit spreading conspiracy theories. Thank you.
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More evidence needed to prove Indian hand: Qureshi
Wednesday, 09 Dec, 2009 | 09:16 PM PST |
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MULTAN: Foreign Minister Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi has said that foreign involvement in creating trouble in Pakistan cannot be ruled out but more information is needed to plausibly argue Pakistan’s point of view on the issue of Indian involvement.
‘The possibility that there are elements who want to destabilise the country cannot be ruled out. But information received by us in this regard is insufficient. We need more information and material to plausibly argue our case,’ said Qureshi while talking to the media at Multan airport.
‘We will have to be cautious and careful. If it is challenged in a court of law then we will have to ensure that it meets its logical end,’ he added.
The foreign minister welcomed a statement by Indian state minister for external affairs regarding safety of nuclear assets in Pakistan. ‘Pakistan does not need any certification from others on the issue as it is a responsible country which has implemented internationally recognized standards for safety of its nuclear asset. The statement from an Indian minister endorses Pakistan’s point of view on the matter,’ he added.
Qureshi said that the whole world was suggesting dialogue between the two Asian countries as the most sensible way forward to resolve all issues including Kashmir. The United States, Britain, France, Germany and others believe there is no other way except dialogue to resolve issues for regional peace, he added.
Pakistan also wants resumption of dialogue but it should be meaningful and result-oriented. It should not be confined merely to one point, rather it should be composite, he added.
He said that Admiral Mike Mullen had also spoken about the importance of resolving the Kashmir issue to ease tensions between the two countries.
The FM said that the prime ministers of Pakistan and India had also agreed at Sharm Al-Sheikh that dialogue was the only way forward.—APP
DAWN.COM | Pakistan | More evidence needed to prove Indian hand: Qureshi
burqa mate, the evidence is solid like muharraf has mentioned a few times i am completly baffled how a pakistani can deny this existence, either they are traitors or they are stupid to the core.
even your article what you are posting contridicts yourself as qureshi has said that there is evidence while you say theres none, qureshi is only saying theres not enought obviously to please his masters as the proof is as solid as a rock as mentioned by musharraf and a few others.
....qureshi is only saying theres not enought obviously to please his masters ....
So Qureshi is traitor, everyone else is traitor,
hhhhhaaaaa hhhhhhaaaa.
Nutz. Conspiracy nutz!
Oh bhai,
Had we got any proof, I would be the first one to support a war-threat to India.
Talibhianic Islamists have declared WAR on our beautiful country. If Indians were supporting it, then it is time for us to declare war against India.
However as per our own FM (and many many bureaucrats and generals) we DO NOT have proof that Indians are supporting Islamic militants.
Kapeesh?
p.s. There are suspicions that Indians were supporting BLA. Howevre we just signed a deal with BLA and the attacks have stopped in Balochistan. At least for now!
clearly you keep denying the bit where qureshi is saying there is evidence while you have contridicted yourself.
either you dont know how to read or are being silly as qureshi has said in the article that we have evidence, you post it yourself and now you write he says we have no evidence who are you trying to fool.
you obviously have no clue of geo-politics or history as saying india is not supporting TTP is a direct insult to geo-politics and history, i have presented tons of links in my previous post where high diplomats are saying the evidence of indian involvement is solid as a rock and no generals are saying this stop making stuff up. Major ather abbas has given a big press conference on this on 3rd of november where he clearly slamed india for supporting and funding TTP, he is the spokesman for the pakistan military and obviously knows whats happening better then i do or you do, so atleast take his word for it.
Re: Zaid Hamid
this joker is a divine gift to anyone who wants to ridicule pakistanis.
this joker is a divine gift to anyone who wants to ridicule pakistanis.
Sometimes you can say something in a sentence which people can not defend with stories. Very well said..
......qureshi is saying there is evidence ......
......
That's true. But that negates your assertion of "Indian hand in Talbhianic @rse".
Get it?
Obviously Talbhianics are getting money from abroad. And the most likely source are the Islamist Charities around the world who send hawala money to their Islamists kin in Pak.
..... ........ you obviously have no clue of geo-politics or history as saying india is not supporting TTP is a direct insult to geo-politics and history, ...
Oh Bhai,
Geopolitics works on ideologies.
During cold war the third world commies got money from Communists, and the right wingers got money form the free marketers.
You have to have some mutual admiration before you give money to someone.
In the current war between Islamists and the rest of the world, the same applies.
Indian money strings are in the hands of Hindutva and Indian nationalists.
Hindutva nationalists and Islamists are like oil and water. They do not mix.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think Jamat Islami will send money to RSS hindus? Ever?
Geopolitics my foot. Why do you ignore obvious knowledge and burry your head in conspiracies and hot sand.
Do you think Hizbullah will get money from Mossad and CIA? Heck no!
Based on the political leanings of Hizbullah, the most likely source is IRAN.
Do you think Hammas militants will get money from Israel, Mossad, and CIA?
then why do you spread the manure of lies about the Talbhianic evil forces? Accept the truth that they are funded by Islamists in and around Pak.
Burqa man, are you deluided or what.
sorry dude but RAW and india is not an islamic charity.:rotfl:
here is latest from your very favoirte hero boy, qureshi.
Sufficient proof of Indian involvement in attacks: FM
Monday, December 14, 2009
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has categorically said Pakistan is not involved in the Mumbai terror attacks. On the contrary, he said, Islamabad has substantial evidence to prove New Delhi’s hand in terror activities in the country.
In an interview with an Arab television, Qureshi said the international community also supported the stance that Pakistan was not involved in the Mumbai attacks. “Now, it has been admitted worldwide that Pakistan is above question with regard to the Mumbai terror incident,” Qureshi said.
He reiterated that Islamabad had substantial evidence to prove that New Delhi was involved in terror activities in Pakistan. “We have got concrete evidence regarding the Indian involvement in terror activities in Pakistan,” he said.
Qureshi said that the Mumbai attacks were designed by those elements who wished to sabotage the Pak-India peaceful relations. “The economic progress is vital to counter extremism in the region,” he added.
Sufficient proof of Indian involvement in attacks: FM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
SLAP IN YOUR FACE BY MR.QURESHI.
NOW WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE FOR DEFENDING INDIAN TERROISM INSIDE PAKISTAN
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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It is time to quit spreading conspiracy theories. Thank you.
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Lets not toss the term around so loosely. In fact, anything that a Government hasn’t confirmed can be termed Conspiracy Theory, but do you think the Governments are always candid about everything? Have you learned nothing from Bush Era, Libby case, CIA Agent Identity leak, and the list just goes on and on.
Please get your definition right, and use it wisely. When you run out of arguments, you start tossing around fancy loose terms like media pundits. Thank you.](“http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/13+more+evidence+needed+to+prove+indian+hand+qureshi-za-03”)
..... here is latest from your very favoirte hero boy, qureshi. ....
Very good. There is a similar statement in Daily times too.
On Dec 9, he was quoted as saying "No proof that will be accepted in a court".
On Dec 14, he is quoted as saying "proof".
Great. So as per FM, then
We the Paks should not dilly dally with accusations, and slap India with international court law suit
Enough with the bian bazi, munday bazi, bater bazi and kabootar bazi.
heeeheheheh!
Re: Zaid Hamid
^^ lets read again, he did not say that there is no proof, he said we need more evidence.
I am just curious why are you adamant that india is innocent and can't do any wrong in Pakistan?
this joker is a divine gift to anyone who wants to ridicule pakistanis.
best description so far
you obviously have no clue of geo-politics or history as saying india is not supporting TTP is a direct insult to geo-politics and history,
geo-politics: man you are real student he(zaid hamid) refers to it very often in his commentary whereas i am sure he doesnt know much about it..
we are not discussing whether india is involved or not but zaid hamid and his idiotic theories.
although i do think india can be involved but lets wait for the proof...
as far you quoted musharraf as saying we have enough proof yes he is right they have enough proof of indian hand in balochistan even pictures of most probably brahamdagh romaing in kabul in indian consulate car, his or other groups visit to india etc but i have yet to hear anything about talibanic side but person who told me about above i guess a year and half ago did mentioned some talibanic commanders as well.
:rotfl:you are now acting like a kid .
here is what daily times has quaoted qureshi saying.
Evidence sufficient to prove India behind terrorism: Qureshi
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
what is wrong with you, why such a big desperation to love india :rotfl:
geo-politics: man you are real student he(zaid hamid) refers to it very often in his commentary whereas i am sure he doesnt know much about it..
we are not discussing whether india is involved or not but zaid hamid and his idiotic theories.
although i do think india can be involved but lets wait for the proof...
as far you quoted musharraf as saying we have enough proof yes he is right they have enough proof of indian hand in balochistan even pictures of most probably brahamdagh romaing in kabul in indian consulate car, his or other groups visit to india etc but i have yet to hear anything about talibanic side but person who told me about above i guess a year and half ago did mentioned some talibanic commanders as well.
LOL, so now zaid hamid has invented the word geo-politics. lolzzzzzz
if you are an anylyst then very obviously this would come up again and again.
we were discussing indians involvement because of some deluided people that think india is not involved at all in pakistan and its made up by zaid hamid, wereas now a 2 year old with even a little bit of sense knows indias involvment in creating ttp.
and musharraf was saying india is involved in balochistan but i only put the links were he said they are behind TTP, he has said RAW is in the heart of SWAT,