huh under gora boots? that's like saying the amreekans are ruling Afghanistan like the British ruled India. Gimme a break buddy. Looooooooong time only says one thing, these "MODERN ARMIES" have never been successful against the Mujahideen. The Romans, Persians, Alexander, British, now the Amreekans and their bumkissing friends.
So you mean to say even the Pakistan army will never be successful against your mujahideen????
So you mean to say even the Pakistan army will never be successful against your mujahideen????
Now here I think you misunderstood,, the taliban in Pakistan are not the same in Afghanistan. There is no mujahideen needed in Pakistan and all those claim so are terrorists.
and Pakistan army will have to join the mujahideen one day and that day will come soon insh'Allah. unless of course SOME of the army follow what the hypocrite leaders command (lal masjid), then they will fight against soldiers of Allah.
and Pakistan army will have to join the mujahideen one day and that day will come soon insh'Allah. unless of course SOME of the army follow what the hypocrite leaders command (lal masjid), then they will fight against soldiers of Allah.
I don 't agree with this part . In past few years there is a very clear split between religious and moderate forces in Pakistan . I know we don't like it , but this has happened . Almost same like Turkey . It will take years before we can think of helping out any other Islamic cause militarily .
yeah and i wait for your opinion to decide whats best.
since we're doling out unsolicited advice, instead of wasting all your energy online why dont you go lynch an ahmadi.
no person of normal or above intelligence should need advice from me, but clearly you fell foul of that rule with your last comment.
khatam e nabuwat is more important in pakistan then other places because not only did mirzais, sihkism, but also hinduism and buddhism started in this area. clearly signifying a need to differentiate from the religion of rasoolAllah pbuh and any newer cults. mirzais have clearly been given their status, which is outside the fold of islam, and i support that decision and the matter ends there
Now here I think you misunderstood,, the taliban in Pakistan are not the same in Afghanistan. There is no mujahideen needed in Pakistan and all those claim so are terrorists.
and Pakistan army will have to join the mujahideen one day and that day will come soon insh'Allah. unless of course SOME of the army follow what the hypocrite leaders command (lal masjid), then they will fight against soldiers of Allah.
Do you recognize rule of taliban as legitimate in Aghanistan before 9/11?? When you say taliban in Afghnistan are different, what do you mean by different??? Please define the word "different"..
TTP came into being only after Pakistan Army decided to joined hands with US army in the "war on terror"......Pak Fauj is the most important ally of US in their war on terror in the region........TTP is against that ally of US Army i.e. Pak Fauj........... May be situation would have be totally different if Paksitan Army would have decided not to join hands with US Army.
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Yes I do recognize Taliban rule as legitimate! It's a different matter about the ways they used to enforce their rule....
by different I mean the agendas differ. TTP is not even supported by Taliban of Afghanistan. TTP is a dangerous movement funded by "unknown" parties who just want unrest in Pakistan.
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once people start making excuses for TTP they're down the same slippery slope towards terrorism. watch out!
Yes I do recognize Taliban rule as legitimate! It's a different matter about the ways they used to enforce their rule....
by different I mean the agendas differ. TTP is not even supported by Taliban of Afghanistan. TTP is a dangerous movement funded by "unknown" parties who just want unrest in Pakistan.
Adnan Abdul Qadir, a student of Peshawar University, was beaten to death for the ‘crime’ of playing music in his hostel room by the indoctrinated followers of the Taliban......the same legitimate rulers of Afganistan you are supporting....Do you support such people in Pakistan ?? If not.... then Why do you support such people in Afghanistan????
TTP may be causing unrest in Pakistan becoz Pakistan is a major American Ally in their war ....Is that not a good enough reason to attack Pakistan????
no person of normal or above intelligence should need advice from me, but clearly you fell foul of that rule with your last comment.
khatam e nabuwat is more important in pakistan then other places because not only did mirzais, sihkism, but also hinduism and buddhism started in this area. clearly signifying a need to differentiate from the religion of rasoolAllah pbuh and any newer cults. mirzais have clearly been given their status, which is outside the fold of islam, and i support that decision and the matter ends there
Nonsense. If it was a matter of differentiating then 'khatm e nabuuwat conference' and all these assinine protests would have ended in 1973.
This is about creating 'the other' so you can pile on all of your frustrations, unrequited dreams etc etc on them and still feel like you're doing God's work. This is about molvies referring to people who kill others while they're in jail as Ashiq e Rasool, about glorifying lynchings and murders.
Adnan Abdul Qadir, a student of Peshawar University, was beaten to death for the ‘crime’ of playing music in his hostel room by the indoctrinated followers of the Taliban......the same legitimate rulers of Afganistan you are supporting....Do you support such people in Pakistan ?? If not.... then Why do you support such people in Afghanistan????
TTP may be causing unrest in Pakistan becoz Pakistan is a major American Ally in their war ....Is that not a good enough reason to attack Pakistan????
Seriously, read the whole incident and stop falling for the age old propaganda. The student did not bother listening to the administration that requested to stop his loud music. This resulted in a clash between two groups, both sides getting injured. Adnan Abdul Qadir suffered major injuries putting him in a coma and he died... inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji'un.
and like I said in my previous post, I do support Taliban in Afghanistan but the methods they use to implement sharia are questionable. so any other group which follows the same methods is not doing any good.
TTP may be causing unrest in Pakistan becoz Pakistan is a major American Ally in their war ....Is that not a good enough reason to attack Pakistan????
what are you trying to do here? putting words in my mouth or YOU believe this?
First of all it was not the administration; it was Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba (IJT), that attacked students in the hostel room for playing music in his hostel room…but anyway…its nice to know that you condemn such actions…
A regime is known by its actions not by its name…actions of taliban are condemned by still the regime is supported…a regime should only be supported only if their actions are good.
People dont care about how taliban regime will treat its women or its people in Afghanistan in general…you only support becoz it might be friendly to Pakistans agenda…If taliban is good for the people of Afganistan, taliban rule should be good for people of Paksitan as well…please say yes to it, its common sense.
Pakistan/Pak Army is a frontline ally of United States, all the supply lines of US go via pakistan…Pak Army/Airforce operations are funded by the jewish/christian money…Why is it difficult for you to comprehend if TTP is attacking frontline ally of US the great Satan??? Where is the confusion???
uhh.. i didn’t say it was the admins who attacked, i said, a complaint was made to administration about the room from which the loud music was playing. after the complaints, the students didn’t listen to the admins and kept on playing. anyways, unfortunately, what happened is what you all know. The News International: Latest News Breaking, World, Entertainment, Royal News
are you an indian?
why would Taliban need to control Pakistan? that’s nonsense. in Afghanistan there is no other alternative, that’s why Taliban are supported. in Pakistan at least we have an army capable of ruling the country. Allahu alam.
Well said.
Talibots in Pak are just an extension of Talibots in Awghanistan.
Anyone who says they are different, is simply high on some gad-awful nashah.
are you an indian? why would Taliban need to control Pakistan? that's nonsense. in Afghanistan there is no other alternative, that's why Taliban are supported. in Pakistan at least we have an army capable of ruling the country. Allahu alam.
Please dont comment like a PPP currupt politician, this is the kind of answer they give, when Zardaris ill gotten wealth is being questioned..they just circumvent the question rather than answering it.
Its just that .....people dont want to give any other alternatives to people in Afghanistan.......talibans are being forced down the throats of voiceless women and people of Afghanistan.......
There is no rocket science behind my question as far as TTP is concerned...
All I want to say is there should be no distinction between
taliban(s) or any kind of regime like that..
I guess you skipped my answer. 
this is what you posted:
now why are you saying “please say yes”, why would I want Pakistan to be in the same situation as Afghanistan. This tells me either you’re an extremist or an Indian (who wants bad for Pakistan). So which is it?
Second part you’re trying to force your views on me or your an Indian trying to cause trouble. Which is it?
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^^^^^Why should I force my views on you.....I'm trying to understand your point of view....becoz you are the one who is supporting Taliban in Afghnistan on one hand and on the other hand you are calling them terrorists in Pakistan........You are being a Munafiq to the core.....
I have made my point clear....I want these Taliblots out of Pakistan as well as Afghanistan..
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^ Taliban are locals . You just can't kick them out like that . The ONLY solution is political and I don't really see it in near future . (I hope I am wrong)
^^^^If they are locals then you should have the guts to strip them of their weapons and they should obey the law of the land, if they cannot obey the law of the land then their place lies in the govt jails......these morons are creating their own laws ...and some munafiqs are supporting them
^^^^If they are locals then you should have the guts to strip them of their weapons and they should obey the law of the land, if they cannot obey the law of the land then their place lies in the govt jails......these morons are creating their own laws ...and some munafiqs are supporting them
Great, you're calling me a munafiq now.
You can't see any difference between the two, that tells me how closed-minded you really are. Think outside of the propaganda that you have been fed with. Ever ask the question, who's funding these militants in Pakistan? Their weapons don't just appear out of thin air.
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it's gonna be interesting but sad as the Pakistan army tries more and more dissociate from the monster it created and nurtured for so long...only under a new name now called P.taleban!
many of these people made their career in that relationship