hmm there is that. however i am not askin you to accpet something because somebody said it, rather saying to know why people like me believe it. as i said it is a personal choice, i donot take family and lineage to be useless. i donot have trouble with those who do. we all run our own lives. what ever rocks your boat. however i definitely appreciate people who extend the same coutesy to such as myself. while you hold the opinion that there is nothing of lineage in islam, i beleive there is and i have shown you some scholars hold that belief with reasosning. yet the basic ground of superiority is taqwa. as the ashraf ali thanvi said as well. explain to me what kafu is?