Re: Yousuf pulls out of Champions Trophy, Hafeez likely replacement...
If in a Hindu populated city, most of the Hindus don't follow Bhaqwat Gita VERY sincerely, and one Hindu wants to be submitted to his Lord Ganesh or any of the other gods. He tries his level best to even follow the minor details of his religion, like appearance ( putting a tilak line on his forehead...etc.) and other things which he believes Ram also used to do.... He doesn't like to sit with his friends to watch immoral stuff or to get unconscious by over drinking alcohol....etc.
Now, if he never declared himself a better Hindu than other common people in the city, his behavior is very modest and down to earth but he only is firm and committed to his own beliefs, which is apparent from his dressing, his conduct, his behavior, his actions and his words.
Would it be sane for other Hindus to call him a phoney or SHOW OFF ?!?!? Is he doing all this to make others look like non Hindus. REMEMBER, it is not the people who control the religion, it is the religion that controls people, because people's views change from time to time and from place to place, but religion's views remain ultimate not matter "when" and "where" you go
p.s. One positive aspect of Yousuf's sincerity towards even the minor details of his religion is a "keep Quiet!!" call for those who think he was forced to become a Muslim. Because if he were not a muslim by heart, he would never have shown such a passion EVEN IN THE ASPECTS OF RELIGION which he would never have been forced by anyone.
p.s.2. **He was also very expressive before becoming a Muslim. In spite of knowing that the home crowd consists of muslims, he would face the camera and make a plus sign with his hand after reaching a fifty.
What was he trying to gain by "bravely" making a plus sign in front of millions of muslims EVERY time he reached a milestone ??!?!**
I w'd blame the kambakht PCB here. Why on earth did they have to schedule CT - widely recognised as the second greatest one-day competition after the 50-over 4-yearly world cup - in September? Why could they have not played in say the first week of October (when the weather (Autumn) is very nice in Pakistan) after Eid? Cricket is usu. only played in India, Pakistan, SLA and Bangladesh during September/October and I am sure if the PCB had talked effectively to these boards they would have agreed to holding such an important competition a month later.
And Some1 it is simply not true that most of our players have fasted in the past when they have had to play matches in Ramadan. It is just asking too much of any human-being. For instance in the 1992 WC Final against England only Miandad as far as I know was fasting (for the same reason he did not take the field during England's innings). Imran and most of the rest were not fasting. If you watch the highlights, Miandad was clearly physically exhausted (quite unlike a fighter like him) by the time he had got to 30 or 40. It is all then immense credit to Miandad that he batted so bravely under pressure (we were 70/2 after 25 overs and really struggling) and while fasting in that extreme Melbourne heat. The reverse sweep he attempted soon after he got to his fifty I believe was all part of their game plan. If the gamble had paid off it would have been a bonus. As it is it failed but it allowed others to come in and push the RR from 4 RPO to 5 RPO. By then both Imran and Miandad knew that they had set a solid platform for guys like Inzi and Wasim to come in and have a blast. It is just not possible to play a physically demanding sport like cricket and fast at the same time. Even someone as fit as Imran (in his prime) would have struggled to bowl at full throttle and fast at the same time.
I challenge anyone to bowl just one or two overs at pace knowing that they cannot eat or drink for another 10-12 hours!! It is just not humanly possible. Fasting places not just physical but psychological demands on a person. Most of us can sometimes go on for hours (whether studying or sitting in front of a computer like a nerd) without eating or drinking satisfied in the knowledge that we can eat or drink anytime we want. It is still not the same as fasting when you know that you cannot eat or drink before a certain time. So just don't do things which w'd easily tire you out.
I am not sure what our religion says here. Since cricket is like bread and butter for these individuals maybe Islam allows them to fast in other months - it is easier said than done though. It is naturally much easier to fast in Ramadan (when your family and friends are fasting) than at anyother time of the year. Yes there are certain restrictions placed on us as muslims but our religion is not as complicated, harsh or rigid as some of us would have us believe. A bit of commonsense is needed sometimes.
Bottomline: It is just not possible to fast AND play a physically demanding sport like cricket. There is no way in hell you can do that.
Re: Yousuf pulls out of Champions Trophy, Hafeez likely replacement...
after reading all the commenst i thought i should contribute with my 50 cents.
some1 bahi in my personal opinion we should not judge one's intention and thier sincerity because it is not our place to do that. please do not get offended by me just the opinion :)
sceond and most important that how many players our team fast in ramzan, most of time they dont if they are playing. If one player has taken off coz of that reason i think he has done the right thing. For each individual priority is different, some one might be after the career, for someone is family and for someone is thier ALLAH. :)
When I was giving example of people who are defending his freedom of practice his relegion will be the first who laugh when people from other relegion do the same, first person I was thinking about was you.
Two questions: How can you include me in people defending his freedom when my first post in this thread was criticizing you? Secondly, when have I laughed at people of any religion, or criticized a sportsman for catering to his personal priorities? Back up your words or admit that you speak total rubbish.
Again, when you said people defending him were the first to comment at others, was that complete BS or did you mean any specific individual who actually did defend him when you posted? If so, who?
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Look all I am saying is that we dont have to wear our relgion on our sleeves. Its private matter and leave it at that. This is recent phenomenan of South Asian Muslim thank to Wahabi(Jamat) movement that people have started doing this.
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It might well be that in your opinion. Is it any business of yours to tell others where to wear their religion? What is this.. the secular tablighi jamaat?
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In PAK cricket List is too long..
Brinigng Allah to every win and loss. Phenomenon of 90s. Are you saying old pakistani players were less Muslim
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STP already gave an example of Tendulkar who apparently puts his flag on his helmet or wherever. Is that indicative of the other people being traitors and secretly wearing Union Jack underwear?
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This about Dhoni saying... " jay Shriram, we lost but boys played good'..
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I dont care if he does. maybe indian muslims might object though. india however pretends to be a secular country (not very well) but Pakistan is not bound by that.