Yet Again, Abuse of Powers

I got dinged a bunch of “points” because of the below excerpt I wrote. If you go to the PA forum, there are a bunch of people posted views of hate, views of support for terrorist groups, language that is utterly inappropriate. I see people getting their comments edited all the time, and they’re still freely posting. The below excerpt has my viewpoints, none of which are anything I’d be ashamed for being thrown in prison for, and yet the free speech tolerance here is so low? I doubt it, especially with jihadi supporters posting freely here. Iconoclast is known for his conservative viewpoints (check all this past posts in religion and pa), and he has also gotten in numerous arguments with me as well (check past threads as well), and it is clear that this is nothing more than abuse of powers. I hope that moderators try to excercise a more balanced and objective use of their powers, as was done some time ago, and is still done in some forums. PA forum is a provocative one to begin with, and it is indeed hard to manage, but as I have not attacked any personal guppies or posted any personal offensive statements, there need not be such a reaction towards my posts. Meanwhile, people like Real Deal have been wandering into every post I make lately on PA with personal jibes in which their post is completely non-contributory. I have filed in a few post citations even, and nothing was done about their posts?

So anyone with a conservative agenda is free to write their viewpoints as they wish?

PCG

See below:

Regardless of what happened or didn’t happen, I don’t give a crap. At this point, this whole situation is costing the entire region way too many lives, and way too many people delusions about jihad and shahadat and 72 virgins, to the point that the lives of common Pakistani families are being destroyed when their kids get recruited to join organizations that are now flipping out and backstabbing the Pakistani people and also spreading false messages of what Islam is all about. If Kashmir is at the root of all the problems on the subcontinent, even if its a fueling factor, the only way for peace is to resolve Kashmir. Scrap all the old crap, sit down, get the two countries and their militaries and militias and guerrillas out of the Kashmir/Jammu region, hold a fair election, and give them what they frikkin want. Anyone who doesn’t get their way is free to pick up their bags and move to whatever country they want.

Of course, people here will come up with a bunch of counterarguments, but its all bullcrap in the end. At the end of the day, its really boiling down to land and old pride which neither country can set aside. Fine, the British played Pakistan and that was unfair, and we can boohoo all we want about how its always us muslims who get victimized, but the last time I checked, we weren’t being all that wise about coping with our global problems either. There really isn’t anything holding anyone back from peace in Kashmir except the egos of two governments more than anything else. And who suffers? The people stuck in between. Don’t lay sole blame on the Indians. We’ve made life hell for Kashmiris with our Jihadi crap that’s infiltrated their lands. Its not fair to have a family in Kashmir knowing that your kids will grow up to take up arms for a living, to defend an age old war that two governments don’t have the brains to just sit down and settle. Same crap problem in Israel and Gaza/West Bank - it boils down to resources and land. If I control this area, I have more power, and I will stop at nothing to get it, even if it means annhiliting an entire population to get it.

Kashmirs. The poor Kashmiris. Rich how Pakistanis feel so bad about them, and I post an ****video of life being complete morbid sick hell in Swat and no one sheds a friggin tear for the people of Swat and those people are muslim too AND they fall under the jurisprudence of your national boundaries.

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Oh and here's another tidbit from Iconoclast. When I asked a poster if their post (an article entirely in Urdu script) could be translated to English so more people could participate, Iconoclast replied:

"^rest of us have already participated."

And he's a moderator?

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PCG if I gather correctly, you got into a tussle with another poster whose named you mentioned here. Why are you assuming the fact that you are the only victim of the correctional approach the mods used? Tempers are flaring and its important to keep order in the discussions before they turn into ugly pissing competitions. So yes we have beefed up moderation, and this was done after a consensus with the Channel Manager. I do assure you, people who you think are getting their comments edited as infact being warned as we speak. I hope that addresses and satisfies your concern.

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what makes you think they are ONLY getting their comments edited and not being warned?

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I hope they are being warned, and yes, that gives me some consolation to know that you guys are trying to be fair. It does not change Iconoclast's callous replies towards me given his status as a moderator. You don't agree with a person's viewpoint, that's fine. But when you're a moderator, you have to put that aside.

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Please rest assured no one member is singled out. Everyone is treated equally and there is a system in place to insure that appropriate action is taken when due, and not for other personal and/or petty reasons.

If you feel like you have been dealt with unfairly (by a moderator), you may contact the Channel Manager for the respective forum via PM. In this case that would be Captain1. It is the quickest way to get a response as well as appropriate action taken if you were indeed dealt with in a manner you think was unfair.

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PCG a few things that you shud know

1- You are still posting freely, so points are not a Ban.

2- I have not edited any of your "view", only the inappropriate language, so you and everyone else is free to say whatever your views are.

3- Some of the people who have been thrwoing jibes at you have been warned and got more points than you have, but we cannot name anyone.

4- The c.manager and director are always keeping an eye on what a moderator is doing, so no mod can throw warnings left, right and centre on his personal wish. Admin is always keeping an eye on them.

5- We want to promote healthy discussion without use of curse words. No one's post is edited based upon there political views.

If you have any other concerns plz don't hesitate to voice them. I have no agenda against you. I and other mods edit tens of posts daily, so there is no way that you are being singled out, plz see other threads in PA and WA, and see how many have been edited.

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by the way two mods of PA are very liberal, spock and teggy, they have been living together for 2 years before marriage.

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^hahahahaha

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I don't know what the deal is with supporters of israeli/ameerkan versions of terrorism.
Since their brain only have nano size opening and that opening is taken by cnn broadcast.
As a result they think what ever is on tv is the ultimate truth.
These ppl should be treated nicely in PA. I agree.

That’s shocking … :hayaa:

I was thinking its all mazak.. but. .spock & teggy ewww.. Its haram.. unbelievable. Now i know why spocky force me to see his picture :smack:

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^Don't lie i know you always had your eye on spock, tumhara kasoor nahiN, he is hawwt

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hahahaha
tubha you guys need to be stoned to death.

On his Oakley, but you seems to look like somewhere else… :hoonh:

Woh kyun bhai… its legal where spocky & teggy is living :@:

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What goes around comes around. when you were a moderator, you threw your weight about the place and now a few years later your getting it. Now you know how it feels.

But :gs:

:hehe: I sense a lotta hostility here.

Iconoclast has perfectly outlined the procedure, and explained his stance on it. There is no abuse or misuse of the power Moderators have. Moderators have, do, and will try to facilitate and maintain an environment that allows all civil points of view. Where unethical behavior is noticed, it will be taken notice of, be it language or remarks.

Again, if a member feels that he/she has been treated unfairly, the moderators and/or Channel Manager of each forum are always available. It’s an open-door policy for all.

Wow i have read alot abt u2 on this forum so im dedicating a song to u:mehr:

:music:Teggy and spock sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G:music:

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Wait till AhmedNSX hears about Spock and Teggy :omg:

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LetUsChat, this is a feedback forum and not a place to settle old scores.

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Let Us Chat is a perpetually angry teenager who jumps and yells at anyone who disagrees with his archaic viewpoints on Jihad and women, and who meanwhile...oh nevermind, I mean just look at this guy's nick.

Not that mine is any less sleezy. Although I am a really awesome gudia.

Thank-you guys for doing your best with the forums.

PCG