I am finding many wrong in this list
Vomiting breaks the fast and makes it invalid
So does injection
I remember nosebleed too
Am I wrong or is the list wrong ???
I am finding many wrong in this list
Vomiting breaks the fast and makes it invalid
So does injection
I remember nosebleed too
Am I wrong or is the list wrong ???
The things you believe break the fast are common beliefs of Pakistanis but the list is correct. What is the point of fasting? To restrain yourself from eating/drinking or in other words being patient and not giving into your wants or desires. Vomiting, nose bleeds, medicinal injections having nothing to do with why we fast and all of them are involuntary so they don't break it. The niyaat or the intention is the most important thing in our deen.
Some (mentally) young GSers must have a serious concern on #6.
I cant even recognize any of the names of muftis written there.
One thing that our imam pointed out today in jumma speech that "accidental" drinking water also breaks the roza. And he quoted example of the time when you do "kulli" during wudhoo.
Now to me, it doesnt make sense at all. If its 'accidental' not deliberate, why would roza break? And i think growing up I remember it happened very often with myself.
Any opinion from people in knowledge?
[USER="116873"]Captain Obvious[/USER] @Tahurra
In my knowledge they are correct, but offcourse difference of opinion is also there, I personally don?t like to have injection or blood testing done during fasting. Wallahu Alam
@SID_NY any eating or drinking accidentally is actually gift from Allah for the one who is fasting in my knowledge but it doesn?t mean you eat deliberately and say no it happened accidentally ![]()
@SID_NY Let me present you with a hadith (you may present it your imaam saab, next time you see him). Based on this you can deduce if accidental eating or drinking breaks the fast. Or if using miswaak or brushing teeth breaks the fast.
The problem is we dont do our own research. Most of the things are laid out in Quran and Sunnah, while we trust what the molvi saab says in the masjid or what our buzurg or pirs say.
Narated By Abu Huraira : The Prophet said, "If somebody eats or drinks forgetfully then he should complete his fast, for what he has eaten or drunk, has been given to him by Allah." Narrated 'Amir bin Rabi'a, "I saw the Prophet cleaning his teeth with Siwak while he was fasting so many times as I can't count." And narrated Abu Huraira, "The Prophet said, 'But for my fear that it would be hard for my followers, I would have ordered them to clean their teeth with Siwak on every performance of ablution." The same is narrated by Jabir and Zaid bin Khalid from the Prophet who did not differentiate between a fasting and a nonfasting person in this respect (using Siwak) Sahih Bukhari Volume 003, Book 031, Hadith Number 154.
list looks fine to me...
It looks mostly correct to me. Though there are a couple of points that are different from what I’ve heard. I also am not familiar with the people on whose authority they’re mentioning those masa’il, except for one.
As far as the point of forgetful vs accidental eating and drinking, I’ve heard the same as what has been mentioned by the imam. However, if such a thing does occur, what we should do is to continue the fasting as usual but one fast is required after Ramadan to make it up.
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It looks mostly correct to me. Though there are a couple of points that are different from what I’ve heard. I also am not familiar with the people on whose authority they’re mentioning those masa’il, except for one.
As far as the point of forgetful vs accidental eating and drinking, I’ve heard the same as what has been mentioned by the imam. However, if such a thing does occur, what we should do is to continue the fasting as usual but one fast is required after Ramadan to make it up.
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Wait a min. you mean that fast has to be completed without even recognition of it as a “fast” and has to be repeated as well? So there is a double effort for what we are calling it as a ‘accident’.
I wonder when there is one clear hadith about ‘forgetful’ eating makes it easy for everyone, why the molvis made it so hard about ‘accidental’ eating, obviously just because there was no clear hadith for the reference?!
I always think that our religion is easier and natural than how its portrayed by most muftis.
K
Thanks
Peace,
Accidentally water reaches throat doesn't invalid the fast. A person must complete his/her fast. However, due to negligence or deliberately raising water deep into throat may invalid the fast.
Almighty Allah knows best.
The main thing in deen of islam is right concepts so if people do not bother to know right concept and believe anything based on their ignorance and do whatever they like then that is not deen of islam. This is why one must try one's best to spend time on learning and thinking about the concepts related to deen of islam otherwise one is wasting one's time.
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