Yajuj and Majuj

Does anyone have any links to good speeches or discussions by Islamic scholars on Yajuj and Majuj?

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when you search this very forum, you will find threads with video and text links :

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/search.php?searchid=901610

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Here it is from the source, word for word:

ويسءلونك عن ذي القرنين قل سأتلوا عليكم منه ذكرا
And they ask you about Zul-Qarnain, say: "I will recite to you a memory from him."

إنا مكنا له في الأرض وءاتينه من كل شيء سببا
We had facilitated for him in the land, and We had given him the means of everything.

حتى إذا بلغ مغرب الشمس وجدها تغرب في عين حمئة ووجد عندها قوما قلنا يذا القرنين إما أن تعذب وإما أن تتخذ فيهم حسنا
Until he reached the setting of the sun, and he found it setting at a hot spring, and he found near it a people. We said: "O Zul-Qarnain, either you are to punish, or you are to do them good."

قال أما من ظلم فسوف نعذبه ثم يرد إلى ربه فيعذبه عذابا نكرا
He said: "As for he who has transgressed, we will punish him then he will be returned to his Lord and He will punish him an awful punishment."

وأما من ءامن وعمل صلحا فله جزاء الحسنى وسنقول له من أمرنا يسرا
"And as for he who believes and does good, then he will have the reward of goodness, and we will speak to him simply of our plan."

ثم أتبع سببا
Then he followed the means.

حتى إذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها سترا
So when he reached the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people whom We did not make for them any cover except it.

كذلك وقد أحطنا بما لديه خبرا
So it was, and We knew ahead of time about what he intended.

ثم أتبع سببا
Then he followed the means.

حتى إذا بلغ بين السدين وجد من دونهما قوما لا يكادون يفقهون قولا
Until he reached the area between the two barriers, he found no one beside it except a people who could barely understand anything said.

قالوا يذا القرنين إن يأجوج ومأجوج مفسدون في الأرض فهل نجعل لك خرجا على أن تجعل بيننا وبينهم سدا
They said: "O Zul-Qarnain, Gog and Magog are destroyers of the land, so shall we make a tribute for you that you will make between us and them a barrier?"

قال ما مكني فيه ربي خير فأعينوني بقوة أجعل بينكم وبينهم ردما
He said: "What my Lord has given me is far better. So help me with strength/manpower and I will make between you and them a barrier."

ءاتوني زبر الحديد حتى إذا ساوى بين الصدفين قال انفخوا حتى إذا جعله نارا قال ءاتوني أفرغ عليه قطرا
"Bring me iron ore." Until he leveled between the two walls, he said: "Blow," until he made it a furnace, he said: "Bring me tar so I can pour it over."

فما اسطعوا أن يظهروه وما استطعوا له نقبا
So they could not come over it, and they could not make a hole in it.

قال هذا رحمة من ربي فإذا جاء وعد ربي جعله دكاء وكان وعد ربي حقا
He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord. But when the promise of my Lord comes, He will make it rubble. And the promise of my Lord is truth."

وتركنا بعضهم يومئذ يموج في بعض ونفخ في الصور فجمعنهم جمعا
And We left them till that day to surge like waves on one another. And the horn was blown so We gathered them together.

Supernatural and devilish creatures according to tradition eh? :) Pretty pathetic considering that the Gog-Magog could not withstand the Ancient Persian Empire (ZulQarnain is Cyrus/Kurosh) and cast iron walls. Unless this is only referring to groups of people like bandits or nomadic-war-tribes or war-like/collonizating nations (humans).

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AOA

The way i read replies from shia and sunni brothers on this site I can easily conclude that

shia and sunni are yajuuj and majooj , until they change their attitudes.

take care and Khuda hafiz

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you are missing the point. Yajuj and Majuj will be together against the whole humanity.

On this boards, Shia and Sunni are not together. First go and learn and then come here :hehe:

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^lol

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:cb:

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Hmmm so if the people could barely understand anything said.. how did the two parties communicate so effectively?

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AOA

My dear U R MISSING the point not me, it is not a statement of truth but a statement of wit ( tanz) for learning and can not be looked at surface for meaningbut underlined.

take care and Khuda hafiz

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If you do a tanz (wit) do it in it's correct connotation. You totally missed the context of Yajuj Majuj.

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AOA

Do not u think that from the angle u r looking at this issue is the only angle to look at it ?

i f true u win.

take care and Khuda Hafiz

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For once, we agree. Thanks.

Tata

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video 1 http://66.250.64.38/dmlmediafiles/video/wmv/QALQ022598_01.wmv

video 2 http://66.250.64.38/dmlmediafiles/video/wmv/QALQ112895_02.wmv

http://www.alislam.org/ror/April_2006.pdf page 47

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Sorry for getting back late. It means he was in a non-native land during this expedition... I think there have been interpreters since ages in the human community, however, it may also have taken them more than just words (pictures or sign communication perhaps) to understand each other. Here, I think, Shabbir Ahmad's interpretation also takes this possibility into account and he places this incident in the North, around the Caucasus.

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Ok this guy’s analysis of Yajuj and Majuj and Dajjal is ridicilous

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^^^ What do you find ridiculous in these interpretations?

Ridiculous would be the concept of goblins gnawing on an invisible wall waiting to come out and anihilate the whole world.