Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana

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Re: Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana

Ali-Syed, kakabali,

if you read you comments as neutral person, you are sounding like Jiyalas, who ought to defend their leadership even if it sells the country out...

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Yeah, mind asking SMQ if PTI is growing that stronger then why they aligning with the likes of SH. Rasheed???

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Inappropriate comparisons to say the least. The change PTI has talked of is in the way this country of ours is governed. A change in the mindset of people. PTI is not looking to cater to its voters or constituencies only, unlike what we have seen in the past. PTI is talking of change in entire Pakistan. To say that this change can be achieved by sidelining a major chunk of Pakistan's population is unrealistic.
PTI has never been averse to allying with any other party, but has always stressed that such an alliance will be on PTIs terms. As a close follower of PTI, I will give all new members/allies the benefit of doubt, assuming they are conforming to PTI's standards. Once PTI followers start feeling that any PTI members are resorting to the same corruption and cronyism that other parties are famous for, you can rest assured that these followers will be quick to leave.

The biggest change PTI has brought about is that it has invigorated the educated class of Pakistan, and for the first time ever, we will see a major chunk of educated Pakistanis casting their votes. This will no doubt result in the second biggest change....sharp drop in corruption (though I believe we will see a sharp drop by default, the day Zardari leaves)

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^^ And that CHANGED governance will be done with the like of Sh. Rasheed!!! yeah i believe you!

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LOL... IK has at least been able to change the attitude of Nawaz Sharif and company. They have to change from politics of allegations and counter-allegations to something 'different'. :P

LOL... Really? Would I say the slogans of change are just political slogans if I was a typical jiyala?

Your comments, on the other hand, seem to be a person possessed. You are willing to ignore every badmashi PML(N) has done and has been doing saying it is 'norm in Pakistani politics'. Now that PTI is using the same tools that PML(N) uses and always used to get some electoral leverage, everything becomes haram.

I have even shown you NS saying the exact same things that IK has been saying but you still choose to remain obsessed with PTI.

Good going.

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^^ I normally do not indulge myself discussing with Jiyalas, as it takes the argument no where, since to you, IK is one another zardari... i won't be wasting any time on you in that matter... please carry on

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If the argument has not foundations, it won't stand for long anyways.

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While Arguing with Jiyalas,

All allegation on PPP leadership are mere allegation, none of them have been proved

and if somehow one bring them some facts which could have been used as proves then it is either fake/madeup or created by establishment, or the bearer got no credibility or others have done it to

and based on any of the above, Jiyalas would call all or a particular argument baseless...

Now just change, PPP with PTI, that is real change, IK have promised... all other as mentioned by others are mere lies, used by a politician to fool people and he is proud of it

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^ LOL .... the above post is as desperate as PML(N) leadership these days.

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^^ Like a jiyala, you are blind enough to not to see above the party lines...

Long live jiyalaism...

as far PML-N is concerned they are more than happy to see this alliance...

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For me, there is a little difference between criminal charges on PPP leadership that jiyalas defend and political decisions by PTI that every party makes and has been making.

If you are not able to see the difference, can't do much about it. I would suggest you read your own signature though. :D

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Re: Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana

^^ Any criminal charges against PPP leadership before they come to power???

zardari sahib ticket black kertay thay, khab sahib, juwa khela kertay thay ya ball tempering main involve rahay... but when former got into power... hell broke.... and they defenders of the former kept defending... same is the case with IK... anyway, there are people in the world who think Cow, monkey, snake are gods, and i respect their opinion as well...

my signature is what i believe and PTIans on the other hand believes that IK is incarnation of GOD in pakistan, last hope for Pakistan and if he is not there, then no Pakistan... something borrowed from Jiyalas...

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Now prove it from any of my posts.

I have accepted that he is taking in guys who were supported by establishment. I have accepted he is making claims and promises that he cannot fulfill. Have I claimed that he is the cleanest politician around? My only argument is that all political parties have been doing the same to gain political mileage, is not a crime and in your own words are 'norms of South Asian politics'. The fact that you are okay with Ameer Muqam but not Sheikh Rasheed, is hypocrisy. I would take Sheikh Rasheed as railways minister any day over Bilour sahib that we have.

If he is involved in criminal activities, please bring forth, and you won't find me defending him at all.

You should have told me earlier that you are also worried about potential, probable, future corruption by IK and I would not have argued with you anymore. I'm out.

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like Captain1 said it would have been better, if they would have fought their battle alone. put their own guys. if you win, great. if not sit in opposition. khair, SR is on board and its final.

I think PTI should focus more on rural areas, they have barely any representation there as compared to urban areas.

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Re: Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana

Keep dreaming.

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Read a slide on some news channel that due to pressure from within the party, IK has decided not to form electoral alliance with Sh rasheed. Is it true?

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Did PPP leadership have anything to show before elections? Did PPP leadership do ANYTHING for the people?

Read above, there is difference in why people believe in PTI than why people believed in PPP. PPP came to power based on "promises" of leadership, while PTI leader ACTUALLY did something for the people.

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If it is true how hypocrite nirale change their color like chameleon. They will say "yeh sheeda talli, PPP ya PML(N) ke laiq hay'.:)

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Re: Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana

You are supporter of PTI, the other guy is supporter of PML(N), why you drag PPP in sheed talli thread?

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Lol its just an electoral alliance nothing else

Bando ko bus baat chahye honi chahye especially Jiyalas or Noonies ko