Marry someone who went to bars/pubs but claimed didnot drink? Girl guy whoever...
Yes. There are some events.. when you need to be there for celebration like farewell party, birthday party.
Yeah
You are setting the bar too low.
What if he doesnt goto bar/pub but occasionally visits strip club?
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You are setting the bar too low.
What if he doesnt goto bar/pub but occasionally visits strip club?
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Sometimes Holy has a point, OP.
What if he visits the strip club but claims that he lowers his gaze? 
If he is determined to drink, then he doesn’t need to be in a pub or a bar to do so.
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So going to a pub bar isa problem?
No but if his claiming he doesnot drink prays than saying you go to a bar how can you not drink might be an accusation?
I would occasionally go to a bar with work colleagues but wont drink, I receive wines as gifts occasionally from non-Muslim friends, which i politely accept and then discard. Does it raise the question I might be a drinker?
People may go to a pub for reasons other than drinking alcohol e.g. company of friends, get-togethers, liking the atmosphere, having a fag with pals, or even just watch good old footy.
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It’s not an issue for me, i don’t drink but don’t mind if she does as long as she’s not an alcoholic coke snorting two timin b#$+h.
The short answer is that it wouldn’t be a deal breaker off the bat. The more detailed answer is that this would bring up other questions that would be used to determine whether I would proceed with it or not.
I don’t think anyone would go for someone to whom the bolded part applies, regardless of whatever else the guy has in terms of religious observance, education, wealth, looks, fitness level, charity work etc.
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I don’t think anyone would go for someone to whom the bolded part applies, regardless of whatever else the guy has in terms of religious observance, education, wealth, looks, fitness level, charity work etc.
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Absolutely!
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I’ve gone to bars only because of colleagues and the dreaded “Happy hour” in which the colleagues force you to come only because there is “Free” food. But I only eat halal. But to tell you the truth the ONLY reason I even go is to see everyone one get super drunk and act like an idiot. While I sit back eating peanuts and seeing “Pam” from HR open up about her past relationships and the Indian consultants trip over tables.
I don’t drink btw.
^ LOL. Naughty-naughty!
I’ve never been to a bar or a pub. But I’ve been invited for drinks by coworkers…as recently as this past Tuesday. I’ve always either told them I don’t drink or I make some excuse and decline.
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Going to a bar doesn’t make you a haraami per se, I go to barcades sometimes but never drink
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[USER=“116873”]Captain Obvious[/USER] women rights and gender equality is mostly a liberal and secular value, all religions have considered women inferior to men and require obedience from them hence the chances are men who are religious may feel that if women is not showing obedience then she should be put in place. Abuse rates in more religious countries are higher than in secular societies and most religious countries score poorly on gender equality also.
@decentGuy paaji. If Bobby darling doesnt sell chooran of women equality here then wut other chooran he got?
#ZorLagaKe
Even then conjugal abuse is still an issue even in secular, liberal societies. Even the pretext of gender equality is used by some to try to impose their own views on women. Being in Quebec, this issue arises on and off, particularly with those trying or wanting to legislate against women who wear hijab or niqab by trying to selectively impose gender equality on those women.
From many Muslim friends/acquaintances, I’m not too worried about Muslim women being able to find Muslim men who are both successful/accomplished in educational/financial matters, while at the same time observing fundamental religious practices and who are not abusive and who aren’t into things like womanizing, drinking etc. In short, I don’t think that Muslim women, especially in the West are in a position where they have to choose between a non-practicing (or only cultural) Muslim who drinks or a practicing (religious) Muslim who is an abuser.
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I?m not denying that abuse occurs in Muslim marriages. What I am saying is that I don?t see a woman more likely to be abused by someone who observes religious practices than by someone who doesn?t. The other thing is that though there might be some men who both observe religious practices and also abuse their wives/kids, you will also find this type of behaviour among those who don?t believe or follow any religion as well and you can also find practising Muslim men who don?t abuse their wives/kids as well.
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